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When you look at a lot of other MLB rotations, what do you really see out of the #4 #5 slot. I like all these arms in the bullpen but some combination of Crawford/Pivetta/Houck/Whitlock would be fine in that role. They really need to build the rotation at the top. Two solid signings with the names talked about in here would be absolutely transformative to this rotation.
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Man, I added two big name Free agent pitchers. What else do you guys want? You want the Sox to sign all the starters in the world and trade the farm and have 5 #1s? I get it. We suck, but being realistic and assuming some balls are grown on John Henry’s part, adding two legit starting pitchers I’d pretty damn ambitious. It also doesn’t have to be those two guys. s***….it could be Nola and Snell for all I care.
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I noticed, but mainly because he’s my desire. I figured you would not mind him added.
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Is it? Yamamoto + Montgomery seems like a different model than just signing Kluber. Also, I have Houck and Whitlock in the pen.
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I was tempted to put a * next to his name. I'd be happy with 20 starts. Dude will probably eclipse 100 innings this year and relative to the past few years was healthy this year. He had the shoulder thing, but I would have been more concerned if it was his elbow, which has been fine. He might have another season or two left.....or not. Still, I think Pivetta/Houck/Whitlock can slide into the rotation if that's the case, and If Bello/Yama/Montgomery are as advertised thats still a legit rotation.
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THat's a pretty sexy rotation. Yamamoto Chris Sale Bryan Bello Jordan Montgomery Kutter Crawford/Nick Pivetta Pushes Whitlock/Houck to the pen. That's a really good rotation, especially if Yama is 75% as good as they say and if Sale is healthy that could be one of the best rotations in baseball.
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He should get more than Rodon.
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If you go past the first line, it's fair to assume I have up until the next to play with so I'm spending over 50 mil. And I'd gamble they will this offseason, although I won't try to predict who they actually sign but for the fun of it. Yamamoto $25 million Montgomery $20 million Duval $12 million Look at that I only spent $57, but of course, there will be a few smaller signings that probably add up to another 15-20 million, or perhaps we see an extension or two. A few months ago I would have loved to put Urias on that list.
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Another wildcard on this roster is Luis Urias. If he regains his form, he could be a starter on this team at SS or 2nd, and he's under contract for the next two years. If he does not regain his form, he's still a very good bench bat utility type who effectively replaces Arroyo on this roster.
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Devers will be the ripe old age of 28 in 2025, Story 32 with a system flush with up the middle talent certain to be higher up the org then. Mayer should be a MLBer. Sox history, plus the strength of their system, plus money coming off the books, makes me very comfortable about setting the offense (largely, not completely) on cruise control and spending their cap space on pitching, pitching, pitching and more pitching. It's almost like we can have great pitching and keep Casas and Mayer too. I call it having my cake and.... I know I know I know, not everyone shares this opinion, but as they say "there's more than one way to skin a cat"
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Imagine sitting at 300 lbs and over 50% body fat. Your goal is to get into shape, and do a pro body building show. So you go about doing just that, realizing it can’t be done in a year. Over the years you slowly lose the weight and build muscles. Slow, the right way, so it’s sustainable and you dont end up with flappy loose skin. Several years later you’re sitting at 210 lbs and 18% body fat. You look good, you look amazing, but you’re not ready to compete on stage yet. Not even close. But you cash in your chips, and go up on stage with a bunch of men hovering around 5% body fat. Despite your successes and improvements you finish dead last, go eat at dennys and put on 20 lbs. sure you’re not back where you started but you fell flat on your face and set yourself back a few months. To me. This is what Trading Casas or Mayer is like right now. It’s not that it’s the right or wrong move, but rather it’s the wrong time. Have a some damn patience. There’s an actual Forrest past that tree you’re fixated on.
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Yama just threw his 2nd career no hitter the other night. Dear god please have the Sox sign this guy
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I would like to formally submit my application to replace Bloom
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Scherzer was my binky, I remember back in the day leading the charge advocating his signing. I also predicted a big free agent pitching signing that year. I thought they’d let Lester walk to sign him, I didn’t buy the bull they’d never sign a big name pitcher again. I was right, just off by one year. The next year they signed Price.
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The sheer longevity of the Sox pitching drought has made it abundantly clear the problem runs deeper than just bad luck, but to some extent, they’ve had bad luck with guys developing too. It’s not guys like Anthony Ranaudo, Allen Webster, Casey Kelly, Ruby La Rosa, Trey Ball, Jay Groome, Henry Owens, and others weren’t highly regarded outside of Boston and still fizzled. Perhaps this is also why when we do get a pitching prospect high up in our system we don’t believe it until we see it. Which isn’t a horrible position to have regardless. While I consider myself an optimist on the prospect homer front I think this dose of skepticism is healthy. Hopefully Bello is a sign of things to come. I have high hopes for Perales, and Wilkeman, in that order. If just one of those guys can turn into a legit #3 option a few years after Bello that would make the recent success of the systems pitching so much better. So good, that adding two strong starters this offseason could make their pitching a force to be reckoned with.
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I think you keep one in the rotation. The one who you think has the best outlook, in terms of durability and ability to cultivate another pitch. 4 of those guys in the pen is still a very very good pen. Sox still need two starters this offseason. Starters better than Kluber
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And yet I dispute. Things that you predict that happen in the future and have not happened yet are not facts. That….is a fact.
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I think this is it. Getting injured can happen to anyone, but getting injured more than once can start to raise the red flags
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I’m not against trading prospects at all, I’m just merely stating my love for Casas. He’s becoming my new MLB binky. I just don’t want to see him traded, ever. Things can change.
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Good, this team isn’t ready to strike for a pitcher. They’re a mediocre team, I think you need to build yourself into a contender with a strong farm and then you make such deals. Trading young controllable guys away now would be blowing the load too soon. It’s a slap in the face to endearing such suck for the past 4 years all in the name of rebuilding from the ground up, only to tear it all down and trade away a bunch of assets when we are almost but not there yet
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Obvi I’m just saying I’m not touching Casas. He’s my untouchable. Don’t touch him. Stop! Back away from the young first baseman, let him play and develop here
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Also we traded for Sale without giving up MLB talent. Of course, you’re probably giving a team two of (Mayer/Teel/Bleis/Anthony) plus other prospects for that, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat. To me, Casas is untouchable. You plugged a hole, you found a true, young, constant controlled hitter who may be a future leader. Casas is the type of guy who is going to rub off on people just like Schwarber did when he was here. He’s a true student of the game and a professional hitter. That has real value in a clubhouse, and will be even more so in a few years when he’s not a rookie. He will make the people around him better. He’s untouchable to me
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If Casas is the only value you have to bring f back an ACE you don’t have the roster test that justifies trading for an Ace
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Now that I do think about it Romeros fall does seem a bit troublesome. Thank god for Roman Anthony or that draft would be starting to not look so good. I wonder is going on with the kid, it seems like it's been injury holding him back but Bleis has been out most of the year and he's holding firm towards the top of the rankings.
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On the other hand, if he was in the 25-31 range I wouldn't think that seems weird either. There's so much fluidity between rankings at that level, outside the top 10 and top 20. I thought one time I heard the Sox prospects answer a question while talking about being asked why player A is ranked ahead of player B etc etc and they answered it like this. "yeah, you're probably right". If someone think #32 and #45 should switch positions they're probably right. I think the further down a prospect list you get the more it's like throwing darts on a board. You could have a former top ten prospect ranked right next to an unkown DSL guy who is a future top 100 prospect in all of baseball ranked right next to each other.