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Also, if true, it could very likely be an interim position while they search for a more long term option. As you had suggested.

on the soxprospects forum from a poster so take it as a MASSIVE grain of salt.

I just checked your posting history, you attack people's opinions differently from your own all the time. As does Moon, as do I, as does pretty everyone in here. The "I'm a victim" because your opinion is attacked is just a weak form of an argument. Although to be fair, people slinging insults and some of the things said towards you are as well.

Brian O'Hallaran has been offered the position allegedly.

I was never the biggest Bloom hater, but this firing signals Henrys acceptance that it is time for a change in direction. I welcome this. I too shall drink in celebration tonight. Whiskey? Wine? or a nice IPA? Might even put in a little 420. I drink in celebration because I am even more confident in my prediction of adding top-notch starting pitchers this offseason. I will accept your apologies now for doubting me.

I might have been misinterpreting Moons' post, but I was trying to say that the Sox are better at those positions overall.

Did I say in the middle of next year? I meant to say this year. Look at my tag line below. I would like to DOUBLE DOWN ON THIS!!! I predict one of the reasons Bloom is fired is because Henry wants big moves now and he knows Bloom is not the guy. Just like DD replaced Ben to make the moves that needed to be made so too with his successor....or not.

People do view admitting mistakes as a sign of weakness, which is a huge problem with our society. Certainly don't want to steer the conversation toward politics but I've never heard ONE politician ever admit they made a mistake which is beyond frustrating. Admitting you made a mistake, means you know you made a mistake, knowing you made a mistake means you can LEARN FROM IT!!!! Imagine if baseball players played like that. Pitcher throws 20 curveballs in a row and just gave up back to back to back to back home runs so he thinks to himself "hmmmmmm, I should really try to throw this curveball even better this time!!!!!" it's such a stupid frame of mind to have but it's ingrained everywhere.

Where? We need to go there and kill those opinions too then.

Moon also almost never personally insults people or use foul language. Unlike some posters in here!!! and yes, I'm talking about myself here. I'm a dick sometimes. At least I admit it.

I actually wouldn't have a problem with him playing some SS too, he's supposedly an above-average defender there as well. A guy who can play plus defense at SS/CF and is RH would have been exactly what we needed most of this year at various times.

Moon I normally agree with you than most posters in here but I just can't see this at all. Wong is a plus defender behind the dish and McGuire historically was until a down year although he looks like he's found his own form recently. Wong/McGuire is fine. Casas has literally been one of the most elite hitters in all of baseball for the past 3 months, 2B/SS isn't as defensible but they've also been riddled by unprecedented injury. With Story and Reyes back and Urias under contract for the next two years it's at the very least as deep as the OF, and you literally have Rafael Devers at 3B. How many MLB at bats does Abreu and Rafeala have? penciling them in as anything right now is just irresponsible. Ceddanne might be a 2 WAR player with it all coming from his defense and that's fine but he's not better than Casas and Devers, or Story if healthy. Abreu hasn't proven to me he's more than a 4th of/platoon-type. Again, I'm not deciding between the two, if you want to ask me the hypothetical gun to the head I'd respond by saying that this is a PERFECT example of why my opinion that this is why we BUY starting pitching now makes all the sense in the world. We have the money, we have the cap space, and it's the most robust area of 2024 free agency. It would be bonkers to not do so.

Probably a little from column a and a little from column b. If it's the later I can't blame them.

actually, at the time you posted this it was 4:51 somewhere......close enough if you ask me.

Is there a better board for Sox posters? The only other one I spend time on is the Soxprospects.com forum.

I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Did you think I was saying the outfield was deep? if yes then let me just state that I do not think that I think the outfield is very thin. Rafaeala is promising, and Anthony looks like he could be a stud, but Ceddanne is still unproven and Roman at least a year away. So my comments here are in the context of the 2024 season, the outfield is very thin. I think you'd agree, I think most would. Look how lackluster this team is!! shouldn't be a big surprise that they're not particularly deep in many places.

The outfield is not deep at all. Verdugo 3.0 WAR Yoshida 1.4 WAR Duran 1.4 Yoshida can't field, his defense is horrible. Duran has been up/down, exciting player but he's had two good months and then a lot of subpar play, he could turn back into a pumpkin or just be a 1.5 WAR player. Dugo, good player but not great and gone after 2024. After that you have role players and bench bats, the best of which Duval is also a FA at the end of this year. Wong/McGuire at Catcher and Teel looking like he's on the fast track. Casas after slow month has turned into one of the best hitters in all of baseball and 1B. Arguably MI is as weak, but if Story is healthy the outlook looks a lot different, especially if Rafaela actually spends time there (making of even weaker) and Reyes and Urias can field their positions and Luis has good offensive upside as well. The outfield has zero depth. What happens if you lose an outfielder and trade Dugo and you're rolling out with Yoshida/Ref/Abreu next year? That could literally be a disaster. You also have a better prospect pipeline closer to the majors up the middle than you do in the OF. I will not answer the question in your statement because I have a very strong preference to NOT trade any of those guys, including Dugo and any of the guys in the outfield.

Maybe you should just both stop, you're killing my buzz, and it's almost the afternoon over here.

Verdugo is under contract for 2023, the outfield is thin and so is the outfielder market so Bloom doesn't really need to sell him on anything. Unless he plans on extending him.

What if Rafealla can't hit and Duran turns back into a pumpkin? Yoshida can't play LF anywhere, while there is potential there, there's also potential for that outfield to be disastrous and you're also losing Duval to FA. Dugo should NOT be traded. Rafeala might be better with a full season under his belt and Anthony is ready to play full-time in the bigs by 2025. Just let it ride with Dugo and take the QO pick.

Depending on how far back you want to go on this forum, there's a f***ton of blood on a lotta hands here. We got feuds in here going back decades.

No, but a lot of people seem to think so. There are some here who think the Sox resetting the luxury tax limit is evidence they don't want to be big time spenders anymore.

Well Kike was a free agent he was trying to sign, Verdugo is here next year and he doesn't really have a choice right now.

Neither do I, they need pitchers not position players.

If you give DD credit for 2021, then don't you have to give him credit for 2020/2022 as well? which makes the narrative that he built a team heading for the dumps more believable.