Nick

I read an article couple of years ago discussing financial impact on Yankees for missing out on playoffs......it was significant dollars. You spend money to make money. Yep, it's a gamble but Sox ownership group understands financial risks.

Jesus f***ing Christ...can anyone out of the pen get anyone out? It's 9-3 and it's not over.

I hope so

We ate Pablo's large contract this spring and made Shaw our starting 3B. I'm not sure why you continue to bring up his contract value to the table. DD has told JF play your best players. What has Pablo done to make any of you think he's any different now? The way I look at DH spot is that we have Ortiz' 15/16M to start with. Most likely we will not need a SP or if we do make a trade for one, just eliminating Clay Buchholtz option dollars should cover the acquisition cost for cost controlled young SP. I'm not really willing to pay Encarnacion north of $20M per year. That's an overpay for a DH. But $20M to me is doable. What will it take to get him? Relief pitching...say we need 3. We could pass on Clay B and save $13M. Koji and Tazawa combine for about 12-13M. So in theory, that's $25M possibly available for relievers. Other pay increase surely can be covered by increase in luxury tax limit, no?

I don't believe Pedey belongs in this group, oldtimer...

Love the city.

DD should not have his hands tied behind his back for the mistakes that Ben made....Is it a done deal that Encarnacion won't duplicate whtat Ortiz did leading up to his 40th birthday?

Left-Handed Relievers (Italics denote active closers) Craig Breslow (36) Brett Cecil (30) Aroldis Chapman (29) Mike Dunn (32) Boone Logan (32) Javier Lopez (39) Cory Luebke (32) Eric O’Flaherty (32) Marc Rzepczynski (31) Matt Thornton (40) Travis Wood (30) Right-Handed Relievers (Italics denote active closers) Matt Albers (34) — $3MM club option with a $250K buyout Matt Belisle (37) Joaquin Benoit (39) Joe Blanton (36) Blaine Boyer (35) Santiago Casilla (36) Joba Chamberlain (31) Jesse Chavez (33) Josh Collmenter (31) — $2.25MM mutual option with a $150K buyout Wade Davis (31) — $10MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout Scott Feldman (34) Neftali Feliz (29) Jason Grilli (40) — $3MM club option with a $250K buyout David Hernandez (32) Luke Hochevar (33) — $7MM mutual option with a $500K buyout Daniel Hudson (30) Tommy Hunter (30) Edwin Jackson (33) Kenley Jansen (29) Kevin Jepsen (32) Mark Melancon (32) Pat Neshek (36) — $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Seung-hwan Oh (34) — club option Ross Ohlendorf (34) Jonathan Papelbon (36) Joel Peralta (41) Yusmeiro Petit (32) — $3MM club/vesting option with a $500K buyout (vests with 80 IP) Fernando Rodney (40) — floating $2MM+ club option with a $400K buyout Sergio Romo (34) Fernando Salas (32) Joe Smith (33) Drew Storen (29) Junichi Tazawa (31) Carlos Torres (34) Koji Uehara (42) Ryan Vogelsong (39) Jordan Walden (29) — $5.25MM club option with a $250K buyout Ryan Webb (31) Brad Ziegler (37)

This is why you don't just settle when you build a lineup. You can't have a black hole in the lineup. Everyone must contribute to manage slow/slumping periods. It's too much pressure on say just 5 guys to produce offense. Having Sandy and Benintendi bat 8/9th was indicative of our offensive strength. Realistically there's no one inside the organization that can come close to replacing Ortiz. With our bullpen situation, it will be difficult to win coming from behind next year, especially having no replacement for Ortiz.

With the score 8-2, why not pitch Buchholtz two innings? Was he tired? Could have saved Ross...then on Monday John Farrell will bitch and moan about the guys in the pen being worned out.....is managing pitchers that difficult? I want to SCREAM. PUSSIES

horrible at bat with runner on third

And the Black Knight from Monty Python would've too...

Based on what happened this year, one can never have enough SP's. Possibly we have Johnson to provide depth in 2017. In the end, $13M will look cheap. As I've said in another thread, if our starting five stays healthy and pitches well, then Clay B can be a trade bait at mid season. Trade for younger pitching talent or add depth to the bullpen.

If LF is indeed cursed, can we activate Pablo and put him there? (I kid, I kid)

If Price does opt out, 2019 will be Porcello's last year. Money maybe better spent on extending Porcello. At least that's my hope. The big picture is that we are in the pennant race now and we should compete for the title in 2018 and 2019, especially with the way our SP rotation and positional line up is shaping up. After last two years, we're in a good place right now.

I don't think he'll opt out but I won't lose any sleep over it....$30M can go toward our killer B's....

PER SOXPROSPECTS Kopech Fastball: 93-97 mph. Have seen him top out at 98 mph, but reportedly has hit 100+ mph. Explosive pitch with plus life. Sinking movement. Plus-plus potential. Well below-average command. Command will take time to develop. Slider: 84-87 mph. Plus potential, showed wipeout potential and bat-missing ability. (E Rod is pitching much better since he quit throwing his cutter and replaced it with slider...) Changeup: 85-88 mph. Firm, some drop. Similar arm action, needs to improve consistency with arm speed. Below-average potential. Curveball: 79-82 mph. Loose break, drops arm slot. Flashes tight rotation and depth. Average potential. The club has reportedly asked Kopech to shelve the pitch to focus on his other three offerings, which makes sense as when he throws both in the same outing they end up blending together in a slurvy breaking ball in the low-80s. He's 6-3, DD type of starter....I think his development plus signing Gromes eased the pain of trading away Espinoza for DD.

Anytime a kid throws close to 100 mph and walks only two batters, I'll take it. And I don't care at what level. His biggest issue will always be his control. Major league hitters will wait him out if he can't paint the black.

We have our starting pitching locked up for two more years when Pomeranz comes off the books. Price can opt out but I just don't see anyone else willing to pay north of $30M he's making now. Pomeranz can be extended if he continues his recent success. I guess Clay can be a back up plan for 2017 and become a trade bait at mid year if our top 5 is healthy and pitching well. Johnson seems to be making progress from his anxiety disorder. Kopech could be a mid season call up in 2018. At this point, we only upgrade our SP through a trade and that won't involve big payroll addition. Sox will get relief by dumping Buchholtz if there's a SP acquisition. Killer B's (assuming Benintendi starts in 2017), Pedey and our core catching group appears to be set for next couple of years. We have numerous candidates for 3B, 1B and DH spots. If DD decides to go all in for Encarnacion, then our offense should be humming irregardless of who is on 1B/3B. (I'm rooting for Moncada and Hanley remains at 1B)). Our depth should be excellent with Young, Holt, Swihart and Shaw. 1 Pedroia 2B 2 Xander SS 3 Betts RF 4 Encarnacion DH 5 Hanley 1B 6 Bradley CF 7 Sandy C 8 Benintendi LF 9 Moncada 3B Assuming we retain Buchholtz, we gain salary savings from Koji ($9M), Ortiz ($15M) and Tazawa ($3.3) and Hanigan ($3.7), total of $30M. Between Luxury Tax increase and $30M, do we have enough money to rebuild the bullpen and sign Encarnacion? What do you think?

He should have kept going and stop between 2nd and 3rd....forcing the SS to decide whether to go first or get either Benintendi or Shaw. Or just stayed put at 2B.

Starters under team control Price 2022 Porcello 2019 Pomeranz 2018 Replace with Kopech E Rod 2020 Wright 2020 I doubt Price would opt out.....it's a solid group if they stay healthy

Team G IP W L S ERA H R ER HR BB K G/F WHIP AVG OPS Salem 10 51.1 4 1 0 1.23 24 9 7 0 24 81 2.17 0.94 0.144 0.443 Kopech getting it done........Michael Kopech continued his domination, tossing seven shutout innings and allowing just one hit and two walks while striking out ten (Sox Prospects)....2018 looks about right for him.... No home runs given up in 51 innings. Limiting opposition to .144 Batting Average. High K/BB ratio. WHIP below 1.00. Dominating performance so far.

Xander's plate discipline has left town.......he looks like a shortstop at the plate

Better get some reps in LF

Our #1 baby will be in the majors by 2019...bank it.