With Jacoby Ellsbury looking like an expendable part on the Yankees roster, ESPN’s Buster Olney (subscription required) looks at some of the potential large contracts New York could take on as a way of facilitating a trade for the outfielder, who is owed roughly $75MM between now and the end of the 2020 season. Olney’s names (all speculative) range from other unfavorable contracts like Jordan Zimmermann to more valuable assets like Giancarlo Stanton, though obviously much more than just Ellsbury would need to be included in a Stanton trade. Ellsbury has full control over his future via a no-trade clause, though Olney wonders if the outfielder would accept a deal to a team that could offer more playing time if Ellsbury becomes the odd man out in the Yankee outfield.
One of the best move Sox ever made.....passing on Ellsbury. (for the money he was demanding)
This is a case where most of the fans were right. Finally the FO saw it our way. What do we have to lose?
I've been okay with trades so far. But I also realize that our farm needs restocking right now. Not prudent to trade away more prospects for a rental.
We've been scouring entire planet for Pablo's replacement. Meanwhile, our #1 prospect, yes our #1 prospect who by the way just happens to play 3B, sits waiting. Nothing more to prove in the minors.
We get too hung up chronological age. This kid was signed as a 16 year old. He's been groomed to be a major league ball player. He was not some spoiled teenager that lived in a comfortable suburb playing travel baseball as a 16 year old.
This team needs to wake up. Specifically those we counted on.....I don't care what the WAR stats say. Betts has been sub par offensively. Xander is turning out to be a run of mill singles hitting shortstop. (And you want to give him $25M contract). He is at best a mediocre defensive SS. Beni? He was a better player last September. We think he's a superior defensive left fielder. Well he's not. He's living off other two thirds of Sox OF. At the least I thought he's a smart kid. Well he's not that either. He makes bone head running mistakes as much as Hanley and others. Moreland has become the hitter everyone thought he'd be.....don't get me wrong I think he's still a bargain at $5M. But his career line screams 'mediocre'.
And what's with Farrell's fascination with Holt? I'd take more athletic Lin. As Moon said, Holt should have been traded when he had some value. What would any team give up for him now?
There's a reason the TV ratings are down. Who wants to watch paint dry for 3 1/2 hours?
You can't fall in love with these guys and make stupid financial decisions. I would spend $20M elsewhere. He's nothing more than a singles hitter with limited defensive ability. Move him to 3rd? He doesn't hit well enough to be a 3B.
"We're in need here and we think he's ready," Dombrowski said. "We've talked at length. I've talked with John and the coaching staff. They're aware of, he's going to need continued development at the big league level. They're prepared to do it. He's in great hands with this staff. He has made some errors, but he's also made some good plays."
For all the naysayers on this board, read the first line.
"We're in need here....."....If he fails, so what? He's 20 years old. Think he'll quit and retire and go do something else? They are NOT like you and I. They are professional athletes. They face challenge every day. There's a guy on other side trying to make you do your job poorly.
First of all, Sox has been one of top five spenders over the years. Budget for DD did not suddenly increase. Let's not paint the picture that we're all of sudden overspending.
On the heels of two last places (yeah, DD finished up the year on that second one), he came in with a mandate from Sox ownership.
We won the Division last year and we are currently in 1st place. It's a bottom line game. Simple as that.
Let me know when we get to that impending cliff.
Beni, Moreland, Travis, Swihart and couple of others prospects not named Devers and Groome for Votto.
Call up Brentz and Devers.
Now you have some power. Screw the cap. (Betts, Xander, Stanton, Votto, Dustin, Hanley, Devers, Bryce and Catcher.)
Your are 100% right. WTF?
Hitting a double and driving in a run does not excuse for STUPID, CARELESS base running. It will catch up to us. DAMN IT guys. It's not OK.
I'm good with our starting five all getting an extra day's rest. Our success is tied to our starters.
I'd hate to think where we'd be without Chris Sale.
Best thing DD has done in his tenure.
Managing day to day, looking at every data available, JF has to know who is hot and cold.
It should be all about the team. You are a paid professional. I don't care if I hurt your feelings. You hit .120 over 3 series, then you shouldn't expect to bat clean up. (Hard luck outs obviously are considered.)
There's a big difference between unlucky streak and a slump (usually chasing balls out of strike zone contributing to K's and weak contacts). If you're in a slump, I don't want you leading off.
Rafael Devers seems unfazed by his promotion to Pawtucket, as he is now 8 for 19 with two home runs after going 1 for 4 with a two-run opposite field home run on Wednesday.
What would it take to get Devers? Groome? Chavis? Houk? Oh wait.....
No offense...Devers sits in minors......If he can't hit any better than what we go in majors right now, we might as well trade him.
what a bunch of f***ing idiots. if he fails, SO f***ING WHAT? Oh wait, we'll only score a run or two?
Our OFFENSE sucks. We make all star pitchers out of Masterson's of the world. I doubt anyone right now is lining up to pay Betts $30M.
Out of curiosity, what can we get for Betts in a trade? Give me a name. Would the Angels trade Trout heads up?
There's a reason old school in many cases work.
DH, 3B, 1B, LF, RF should be power positions. We're not getting much power from those 5 positions in combination. And you can throw me all the OPS you want at me. I don't see power. We have 'boys' built bodies going up against men.
Team Building.
1) Build a starting pitching staff that can compete 1-5. We now have it (assuming everyone is healthy).
2) Button down closer. We have it.
3) Reliable bullpen. We're little thin. We could use reinforcement.
4) Score runs. There's no substitute for home runs. Knowing we have to put together walk/hit combination of 3 just to score a run puts tremendous pressure on our position players.
LETS f***ING MAKE SURE DEVERS IS 100% READY WHILE THE SHIP GOES DOWN. WHAT A f***ING IDIOTS.
Maybe DD should ASK OUR PITCHERS IF THEY WANT DEVERS IN THE LINEUP.
We're going to pay $30M to Betts? No position player on this team is worth more than $20M.
Devers can hit it out the park to all fields at any time,” Febles said. “It’s hard to find guys like that.”
One veteran American League scout I spoke with Friday night thinks the hit tool is ready for the big leagues right now.
“They could slot him fifth in the order and he’d carry the spot tomorrow if there was room for him up there,” the scout noted
by Mark Shreve June 5, 2017
We prefer giving up prospects for a rental instead.