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I'm not sure if I have any sympathy for the players. First of all, it's difficult to have one union represent someone that just signed a $200M long term contract versus another that is surviving on league minimum. Just really think about it. I see a guy like Marwin Gonzalez making $3M. I bet 95% of population doesn't make that in a lifetime. Some on this board will argue but 95% of people aren't as good as Marwin. I simply can't have any sympathy for the guy. Owners take all the risk. Players don't have to play. Go start your own league and pay yourselves zillions of dollars.
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But they pay those players less than average starters so there is THAT.
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Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
Nick replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I doubt Bloom would trade away a recent first round draft pick. I would bet you $100. -
I'm trying to think like a Tampa fan....I think this deal is for replacing Eovaldi and his expected $20M+ contract once he hit fee agency in 2023. Bloom is always thinking ahead. If Paxton recovers early and is able to pitch in September, great. Otherwise, he's the backup plan for 2023, a cheaper version, for Eovaldi leaving. I just think that's how Bloom is wired. He looks for guys with higher ceiling than shown due to injury or otherwise. I will repeat this going forward. Bloom wants to spread the risk. He will sign Wacha and Hill, hoping one will come through.
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I don't mean to be sarcastic and thank you for stating the obvious. We're still wrapped up in Price contract for $16M. That would have paid for E. Rod perhaps. It really is about choices we've made in the past and we are paying for bad contracts in some cases. Realistically, I just don't see the Sox able to retain Devers. There needs to be plan B. I think Bloom is doing what he can to put a team out there in April that can compete. If season started tomorrow, C Vaz 1B Dalbec 2B Arroyo SS Xander 3B Devers LF Verdugo CF Kike RF Renfroe DH JD Not horrible...You have about $80M tied up with possibility of $56M coming off the books (Vaz, Xander, Kike and JD) SP1 Sale SP2 Eovaldi SP3 Pivetta SP4 Wacha SP5 Whitlock RP1 Barnes RP2 Houck RP3 Sawamura RP4 Brasier RP5 Darwinzon RP6 Taylor RP7 Davis RP8 Valdez It's not the worst lineup. Maybe we can get help from our farm system when it comes to relievers. Show me a trade that upgrades the team but still stay within the budget. Cot's had us $22.5M under the tax limit before the Paxton deal.
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If money is concern going foward, move Dalbec to 3B and play Casas at 1B. That is Tampa Bay move.
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Unfortunately that's his default position. He never exudes confidence. Face of enigma.
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Now you're talking...I agree.
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Moon, I used OMG because Old Red did.....
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Why don't you think outside of the box for change? I'm comparing season opening rotation 2021 vs 2022. Was Sale in the rotation? NO. You don't ever consider monetary aspect of roster building. You probably want to sign Devers to long extension, no? Something has to give Old Red. OMG, ERA as Moon has said is meaningless stats. How do you know he didn't miss many bats? Aren't you on RECORD saying you don't give a damn about analytics? Did you watch him pitch? Have you seen his miss bats numbers? Houck and Whitlock are not replacing anybody? You do know that Houck started in 2021? Whitlock used to be a starter until his arm surgery? Sox babied him last year right? Why not try to win without going over the luxury tax limit? We have about $23M to buy some quality relievers if the tax stays at $210M. You are in that group of posters always complaining about lack young starters produced by the Sox. Then you get a Whitlock and a Houck and you jettisoned them to the pen. OMG, Why can't we have young guys in our rotation?
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Cot's has Sox now at $187,450 including projected arbitration raises for 9 players. (Yanks at $220M, they're already over) JD $22M and Price $16M come off the books after this season. Eovaldi, Vaz and Kike all will be free agents along with newly signed Wacha. We could decided to go spend one year early, giving Sox at minimum $38M plus whatever we're under the luxury tax, if any, with new CBA.
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I think it's a great signing. He misses bats. He ended the season on a good note. He abandoned his cutter for his curveball. He's willing to make changes. He's going to work on his cutter this off season. Change up is his bread and butter. Full season of Sale will replace E Rod. I would bet on Sale to have better year than E Rod. Eovaldi and Pivetta returns. Wacha replaces Perez, and he'll be better, book it. Whitlock will be better than Richards, so will Houck. Our starting pitching is better and we saved $25M in the process. I love Bloom.
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I think the concentration of resources should be on starting pitching. Kimmi I agree, and to some extent, starters are more known commodities. We lost Ottavino, so I think keeping Houck & Whitlock in the pen makes a lot of sense. Moon You are the biggest fence straddler when it comes to this. I'd say give both chance to start. Houck & Whitlock may give us terrific starting pitching for two years at $1M. Go find pen help. Again, aren't you the biggest critiquer when it comes Sox not developing starting pitching? Yet you want to turn every one of them into a reliever. I don't get it.
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clunkers are fine....just need to recognize it at some point.....not sure what they ever saw in Santana DURING 2021. At least Marwin played some defense.
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Yep
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Exactly, owners may not have lost as much as they want us to believe. Many expenses went away during 2020.
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CBA fight will be interesting. There's no doubt the owners took advantage of players' union the last go around. Increase in revenue outpaced the salaries but the deal did not reflect it. Owners will bring up the COVID and the lost season in 2020. They shut down the minor league payroll. They limited team travel and were responsible only for 60 game season worth of salaries. Just not sure how much money they lost.
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The article also mentioned the uncertainty of labor negotiation as an impetus leading to the signing. E Rod may look like a genius if there's sever restriction(s) imposed on major league teams going forward (lesser threshold for luxury tax, additional non financial penalties for signing FA, etc)
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“It became clear as it unfolded that the market was going to take him to a point that we didn’t feel was the best use of our resources,” Bloom said. “We were certainly fighting our emotions on that the whole way because of how highly we think of him and how much we enjoyed having him here. I think I was more right than some of you who didn't blink an eye offering a guy $10M raise. Bloom probably knew there was a market out there for E Rod, and Bloom was not going to match that. He made sure we got a compensatory pick.
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Again I just don't get you. Have a back up plan yes but why not give both the chance to start. You have $1M options for two starting spots. But you want to spend $15-30M for mediocre starting pitchers that no one wants. That is so typical Red Sox fan mindset. Unf***ing believable.
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As years go by, last year's win will be viewed as the cheapest championship ever won. I have no respect for them for winning.
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The left side of the infield needs to be better. Shortstop Xander Bogaerts and third baseman Rafael Devers combined for negative-18 Defensive Runs Saved. Bogaerts (-5) finished 16th out of 21 qualified major league shortstop. Devers (-13) ranked last among 10 qualified third basemen. Do we really want to give Xander a raise and the richest contract in Sox history to Devers? Just asking.
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"We can't develop starting pitchers" We get lucky in Rule 5 draft. We get a kid with starting potential. We delay it for a year because he's coming off TJ. He has chance to start for year 2 payroll amount. $1M max. He will allow us NOT to sign a Richards type deal, thus saving us $10M. Get a reliever out of our improving farm system to replace him. Why do we give a pitcher $18M one year deal (that's what we're doing), which equates to $10M more than his current pay AFTER the year he had? IF HE REFUSES WE GET A COMPENSATION PICK. Is that your logic? You're willing to gamble $10M for the sake of compensation pick? If E Rod is worth $18M and apparently both you and Moon do, then go for it. I don't think he's worth that much. Hell I'd take chance on Syndergaard before signing E Rod for $18M. Acquisition of E Rod was one of the best deals we ever made. We gave up a rental in Miller and then had chance to sign him back but we didn't. I like E Rod. Just don't think he's worth $18M. I can have an opinion, no?
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And we don't make it as a wild card entry without him. Lifetime contract at $14M is not a terrible thing. He can hit. So you think Bloom was an idiot for acquiring him? Glad he's in charge.
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Red Sox Decline Options On Martin Perez, Garrett Richards The Red Sox have declined their $6MM club option on left-hander Martin Perez, per Alex Speier of The Boston Globe. He will instead receive a $500K buyout and head into free agency. Right-hander Garrett Richards will also have his $10MM option declined, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive. He gets a $1.5MM buyout on his way into the free agent pool.
