dannycater

I say 300 million, make the attempt. Feel same about Ohtani.

I feel like once you are that rich and that immersed in the Pro Sports culture, you got to work that much harder to communicate in an English-speaking country. And your point is well taken, but then again Pastranak had to learn the language, Bergeron was French and became affluent English, just to name a few. Ortiz got to a point where he is very fluent in English.

It should have been a very aggressive approach by somebody in organization whether it be Cora or another employee that Devers be told he can no longer play 3b. But this also is one flaw of Devers in the first place too--the English translation issue--he never wanted to learn English--or get more proficient--the way so many Boston latin athletes did a great job of getting better and better over the years in the communication game. Today's society has allowed for this need for translation--my own junior high school had spanish translation for the graduation...it was a total joke--absolute waste of time...and done inconsistently by a wok California principal--(sorry about the politics)--but this applies to Devers too. He was making 300 mil and sorry he needed to learn English--he needed to become a better communicator in USA media. Instead he went Ohtani--who also needs to learn the language for the same reasons--he has to learn English period...all foreign players need to acclimate. But no one wanted to approach Devers and maybe that was one reason. He was insulated in his own little world. But he became a DH and I was fine with that--isn't that what everyone wanted??? He transitioned after a really terrible first few weeks--then he just went off. Who doesn't want the next JD in lineup 162 games

I chose to stay away from this room for the most part last few years, I returned because I'm bored (ha). No, but I was excited about the '25 team when they started to go on that winning run...It was like hey wait a second we got something going, Raffy was doing great at DH, Bregman was injured but Mayer was swinging the bat, and then you had Rafaela having his best run of the season at plate to go with mostly good pitching, and then Anthony's rise to the MLB roster...and the good times rolled...until the Devers trade...what a disaster, and again what an indictment on the Sox ability to just rip the fun out of anything close to winning. But I admire a lot of you for continuing to be here and comment on Sox baseball, mostly a losing battle and arguments about losing because that's been the Sox going on too many seasons now. Accepting mediocrity.

spot on. Managing a lesser roster is a near impossible task. So maybe just fire Breslow (they won't)....and fire Cora too if only to bring in a new voice and one who may be great with the kids rather than just have a good rapport with the Latin players in dugout. Managers come and go, there is no upside with Cora since the original changeover to get rid of the '18 roster. Breslow has worsened the team and its direction and that has to change too. But it comes down to Henry and the reality is he is quite happy he has 280 more mil to spend on his soccer franchise since the Devers unload.

What a stupid take...The Sox were on a high, winning, you know what you should want as a fan when Devers was hastily dealt while Bregman on injured list. So wallowing about how bad the Sox are and then saying Devers won't make a difference for Giants--sorry he made a difference for Sox as a consistent run producer. What he does for Giants has zippo effect on the Sox...what he did for Sox and the bad clubhouse effect he had on the team--so he had to go right?...yeah, right, the whole stupid narrative. Breslow is a an all-time joke as GM, his rookie mistakes and his admission of poor communication....that just adds to how idiotic his business move on Devers (unload the contract) was. At the time of the trade, the Sox were without a doubt playing their best baseball of the season. And Breslow killed the '25 team in its tracks.

probably, but the only rats I have seen lately are plastic thrown at Marchand.

In 2018, Cora had Betts 1.078 OPS, .346, 47 doubles, 32 HR, had JD 1.031 OPS, 43 HR, 130 RBI, had Xander 23 HR, 103 RBI, had Benintendi 16 HR, 87 RBI, had Devers 21 HR, 68 RBI, had a great defensive CF in Bradley, had Vazquez-Leon catching duo, had Mitch Moreland at 1b, added Steve Pearce to be a clutch HR hitter in playoffs, a real bench guy in Holt, had Price, Eavoldi, Sale, Porcello, Kimbrel (fell apart in postseason)....in other words, they had monster talent and real MLB players. He has a glorified minor league team with a few over the hill veterans, one real pitching ace, a real closer, and that's it. This isn't losing the clubhouse, it's grasping for straws with the absolute joke of a roster these past few seasons. It's a clown car. I'd probably still fire him, but it's all on the front office.

I had an opportunity to go to any of the 3 games, and I am very pleased with myself that I avoided the drive and the effort and the money spent for a waste of fanship. It's a small market product for big market prices. Awful.

I love the narrative that the Sox were put in a corner, or they were pressured, or Raffy pressured them, or a demand had to be met...bull all to the you know what...Sox knew exactly what it was doing and it was killing the '25 Sox in its tracks...You can't always time a deal, but the Sox were on a terrific high and run and they had to do it...they just couldn't help themselves and too many fans have eaten it up and said it's justified...it's incredible how the Sox themselves didn't take into consideration Devers' offensive value and his contributions or why they gave him a ton of money in first place..you want to compete, you pay for real talent.

The Sox were on fire, on a roll, everything was clicking, the wins, the Wild Card race and then Henry did it..he trades Devers...and apparently team spokesman and full-time RH only batter Refsnyder (honestly love the guy and he does produce and he is a consistent hitter) said he couldn't understand why the hitting dropped off this trip...let's see...ummm...must be a clubhouse problem affecting the young kids...ummm...yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. So Devers trade did what? KILLED THE SOX IN 2025

the DH spot is open for Yoshida

At this point, it doesn't matter what the Sox do...the AL might suck, but they gave up on 2025 already. Trade them all, who cares. Look what Crochet might get back??? Wow, what a haul...which would then continue the clown car too.

Maybe should have tried to sign an actual power hitter when they had a chance in Schwarber WHO AT AGE 29 led MLB with 46 HR, 94 RBI because the Sox as usual didn't value a star power swinger..sure he had a bad season after that but even at .197 he had 47, 104, then 38, 104, and now 24, 55 with a .920 OPS...way to go Sox, go get Yoshida and Story!!!....idiots.. His average would be 25 points higher in Fenway.

But let's just say that if the Sox want to "blow it up," it's blow up what? They have a s***** overall roster, pitching is mostly bad after one great SP and one great closer

right, but Rice was a rookie in 1974 (came up for the last month) and Duran literally played his first full season as a regular in 2024...in MLB years, he is at age 5 overall--24 when he got his first ABs in 2021...completely different than a Devers, Rice, Lynn..guys who were already bashing balls for years before age 28. Duran is just becoming a true MLB player and he has All-Star on his resume.

Exactly. This team is a joke because they have zero consistency in the lineup with guys who are in and out of lineup on still platoon basis no matter what. No star hitters left other than Bregman. Duran at least has the ability to do some good things at the plate and can run the bases even though he won't match 2024 or may never match that. But he's in the prime of his career starting now. So naturally trade him too.

He led the AL in ABs, doubles, triples just last year. He's 28, I guess on the Sox that's over the hill.

I thought Duran was part of the youth movement...so this is another example that maybe better off relying on veteran talent. Okay, duly noted.

Rice crossed the line when he tried to impart wisdom to a Sox prospect on hitting. Shame on him, the Sox swing for the fences philosophy has paid off gang-busters.

This team is an embarrassment...no lead is safe, no pitching performance is good enough, no offense, no defense....small market approach to winning. Bad team.

MVP, good thoughts and keep up the fandom.

I really stopped watching religiously several years ago. It is tough to watch, and it shouldn't be. It should be some super highs, great rallies, long win streaks or stretches, and feel of being super competitive. I think the first Verdugo season I enjoyed watching them battle. But when you have a .500 type team and it's a lineup of kids (when do they become viable hitters?) and utility guys. They wanted to trade Rafaela a month ago to open space and he's at least entertaining. Anyway, I do watch the mini highlights but I have taped a few games and erased them once I heard the score. Angels I usually actually attend a game, can't make myself drive an hour-and-a-half and would have had Devers still been a Sox.

Maybe we should hijack the room. Ha.

Probably a good time to start firing the staff--pitching coach and manager...Breslow's short time as GM could get shorter too. Cora lost the clubhouse, oh wait, did he ever have the clubhouse?