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notin had the most enticing proposal: Boston gets: Bryce Miller (55.4) Texas gets: Wilyer Abreu (29.7) Seattle gets: Triston Casas(27.9), 3b Josh Smith (23.9) 🙂🙂🙂
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Seattle might be willing to take a low-cost flyer on Vaughn Grissom the way the Mariners took a flyer on Luis Urias, whom the Red Sox virtually gave away last offseason. Of course, Urias can be distinguished from Grissom because Urias was a non-tender candidate. What kind of return could the Red Sox get in a trade of Grissom? Over the past two seasons Luis Castillo and Mitch Garver have combined for 7.4 fWAR while Masataka Yoshida and Vaughn Grissom have combined for 0.1 fWAR.
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FWIW over the past two seasons Masataka Yoshida and Vaughn Grissom have combined for 0.1 fWAR in 283 games. That package won't command a handsome return in trade.
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The Mariners might be interested in an MLB-experienced stopgap infielder who would not cost as much as Marcelo Mayer in a trade.
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Vaughn Grissom could be the final piece in a trade for Seattle pitching. Or not.😁
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Would the Red Sox consider trading Vaughn Grissom? Asking for a friend.😉
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The Mariners are likely to take their chances on infield prospects Colt Emerson, Cole Young, Felnin Celesten and Michael Arroyo rather than trading valuable assets for Marcelo Mayer.
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The Mariners are likely to return an outfield of Julio Rodriguez, Randy Arozarena, Victor Robles and Luke Raley.
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The Mariners probably need a third baseman more than another outfielder with the likely 2025 returns of Julio Rodriguez, Randy Arozarena, Victor Robles and Luke Raley. Before this season ZiPS gave Wilyer Abreu and Brett Baty similar three-year WAR projections: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/wilyer-abreu/23772/stats?position=OF#zips-3-year-projections https://www.fangraphs.com/players/brett-baty/26123/stats?position=3B#zips-3-year-projections Baty is five months younger than Abreu but may have one fewer year of team control depending on his service time calculation. Going back to Baseball Trade Values in late 2023, the trade values of Abreu and Baty were nearly flipped from their current values. The BTV site is highly volatile.
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After this season Masataka Yoshida has $55.8 million remaining on his contract while Mitch Garver has $13.5 million remaining on his contract. The Mariners are unlikely to take on that much more money in hopes that Yoshida improves on his 1.4 fWAR so far in 234 games over his first two MLB seasons. Even crazier: Boston sends to Seattle: Three years of Masataka Yoshida at $55.8 million Four years of Triston Casas Seattle sends to Boston: Five years of Bryce Miller (including four likely arbitration seasons) One year of Mitch Garver at $13.5 million One year of Mitch Haniger at $15.5 million Boston sends to New York Mets: Five years of Wilyer Abreu New York Mets send to Seattle: Four or five years of Brett Baty (depending on service time calculation) The Red Sox save money in the long run and likely get one more year of team control from Bryce Miller than from Triston Casas Enough of this silliness.😁
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Indeed poorly written. Thank you for the response.
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Jarren Duran's age 27 season in 2024 is reminiscent of Jacoby Ellsbury's age 27 season in 2011 and Darin Erstad's age 26 season in 2000. The three outfielders who bat and throw lefthanded never repeated those fine seasons.
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Getting Acquainted With The All-New TalkSox.com
harmony replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Talk Sox Issues & Suggestions
When I touted Twins Daily on that Seattle forum, I received a toxic response.🤥 -
Getting Acquainted With The All-New TalkSox.com
harmony replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Talk Sox Issues & Suggestions
As a Seattle Mariner fan and long-time member of TalkSox, I've always held Twins Daily in high regard. Red Sox fans should appreciate the transition to the new format. -
It's far easier for the Mariners to attract free agent pitchers than to attract free agent hitters. Few hitters want to play in Seattle.
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A trade of George Kirby or Logan Gilbert is doubtful unless in the unlikely event the Mariners sign Seattle native Blake Snell, who reportedly wanted to pitch in his hometown. This poster will make his first trip to Seattle this year to attend Saturday's matchup of Kirby and Snell.
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The master of adding quantity on BTV to compensate for the lack of quality.
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It's hard to resist telling a fellow poster that he overvalues his favorite team's players and undervalues the players of other teams.
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So ... Triston Casas, Wilyer Abreu and Masataka Yoshida for Bryce Miller, Mitch Haniger and Mitch Garver. The Red Sox would feel a luxury tax squeeze in 2025 but would get out from under Yoshida's contract through 2027. Despite his hitting woes, Garver has been serviceable in 17 games behind the plate this year. This is just silly. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/seattle-mariners/yearly https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/yearly
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Despite this year's anomaly, since the start of the 2020 season the Seattle Mariners have a cumulative regular-season record of 359-313, 22 wins better than the Red Sox record of 337-333 (which includes 92 wins in 2021). The Red Sox should be commended for their surprising resurgence. As already suggested, Triston Casas could represent a marked upgrade for the Mariners.
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Despite this year's disappointments. Seattle is fairly well-positioned for the next few years. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P55um0jB8gsz4M2Q7hFeD6aFki7n74DBC1tsWXwoD5U/edit?pli=1&gid=1520401900#gid=1520401900 The Mariners are unlikely to undergo a full rebuild by trading valuable assets for prospects. The M's are more likely to trade prospects for an established bat. Can the Red Sox manipulate the service time of Triston Casas to leave the first baseman short of two years at the end of this season? Would the Sox trade Casas for five years of Bryce Miller or Bryan Woo? The Mariners and Red Sox probably don't match up for a trade.
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harmony never compared Jarren Duran and Jarred Kelenic. It was worse: harmony preferred Taylor Trammell over Jarren Duran. Duran should be commended for far exceeding expectations after accumulating only 2.0 fWAR in 193 MLB games through his 27th birthday. FWIW Seattle is unlikely to trade Logan Gilbert or George Kirby, especially for a package headed by an unproven 20-year-old prospect. FanGraphs assigns Roman Anthony a Future Value of 55 with a projected 2026 WAR of 1.8 over 119 games in his age 22 season: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/roman-anthony/sa3020211/stats?position=OF
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Roman Anthony reportedly was scratched from the Portland Sea Dogs lineup today:
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7/29 Mariners @ SOX 7:10PM ET
harmony replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
The half inning should have ended scoreless after the fifth pitch to Abreu: MLB Gameday: Mariners 7, Red Sox 14 Final Score (07/29/2024) | MLB.com WWW.MLB.COM Follow MLB results with FREE box scores, pitch-by-pitch strikezone info, and Statcast data for Mariners vs. Red Sox at Fenway Park -
Strangely enough: Yes.
