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It’s actually a bigger gamble for DD. He left a younger AAA pitcher off his roster to draft Song, and then traded that pitcher for a career minor leaguer. I don’t think he did that just to see if Song has some gas left after a 4 year hiatus. It’s not about the money. DD was probably hoping Song could become an impact arm and certainly not crazy enough to think he was going to step right in and dominate…
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Trading him will probably prove difficult. He’s still a Rule 5 player who hasn’t pitched in almost 4 years. Probably why all those other teams passed on drafting him…
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Similar to how the Mariners got RA Dickey. Selected him and then traded some nobody named Jair Fernandez to keep him.
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OY or M&M? Who would you rather have going forward?
notin replied to RedSoxRooter's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I think Harrelson was doing Red Sox games before Martin and Montgomery. Montgomery did Sox games from 1982-1995. In 1985, Harrelson was named White Sox GM, and by 1987 he was out of their front office and in the Yankees and then later White Sox booth, where he stayed until early 2000’s… -
I’ve been saying that since draft day…
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What? How would they talk about trading for Song? DD: Hey Chaim, I’d like to keep Song, but not on the 26 man roster, since I’m trying to defend a pennant and tying up a bullpen slot with a completely green Rule 5 pick is impractical. Bloom: OK. What will you give for complete rights to Song? DD: We’ll, Painter and Abel are off limits. But I’m open to anyone else in this fairly barren minor league system. Bloom: Ok, how about Johan Rojas? DD: Hmmm. Still stockpiling speed, I see. Let me see Song pitch a little first, but I’ll get back to you on that. And then they hang up and call each other names to their underlings…
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And yet the sports journalism industry continues to try to predict the future. If Philly really values him, they should make a move to acquire him so they can demoted him rather than they to actually force a full season out of him in MLB, which will not be as easy for them as you seem to think. Of course, it’s entirely possible these discussions have already begun…
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Very much so. I was like 10 or 11 so I didn’t even bother…
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The Sox didn’t mess up with Song. (Ward? That’s another matter.) Players in A ball are almost never selected, so players who were in Rookie Ball 3 years ago and haven’t played since should be the safest. Philly played a low risk long shot that probably (ok, definitely) cost them Erik Miller. But there’s a chance Miller doesn’t represent a noticeable loss either. No one thinks Song will straight up stick, so one of my two oft-mentioned options will happen…
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I once went to a Pawtucket game on July 4th, and to celebrate the holiday they made all concessions free…
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Or more homework is done today in determining who to protect…
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You could be more recent since the Sox did lose their starting shortstop this year for the first few months…
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Lux has a torn ACL. Out for the year…
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I priced out Cubs tickets in Arizona and they were in the $35-70 range…
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Spring Training games are crazy expensive now…
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Or Kevin Brown?
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Hindsight agrees. But again, I recognize the dilemma Grady was in…
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That’s also an argument for avoiding the Sox lackluster bullpen in 2003…
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I do credit you for pointing out to me what a huge omission Grich was, although bWAR tells us Lou Whitaker was a bigger one…
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And presumably in pitching shape. With Song, we’ve made a lot of the fact that he’s only thrown 17 IP in Rookie Ball. And that his entire career consists of facing only 65 hitters, of whom I’m willing to bet none of are currently in MLB and no more than 2 ever will be. What hasn’t been mentioned is this also took place across SEVEN STARTS. Now granted, Rookie Ball starting pitchers rarely go five innings. And while Song was averaging just over two, it certainly wasn’t for ineffectiveness. But it does point he didn’t have the arm strength to pitch multiple innings 3 years ago, when he was fresh out of college after his stellar Navy career. Three years of not pitching later, it probably didn’t improve. And the task won’t be easier, as MLB hitters on average have better plate discipline than Rookie Ball teenagers, have the ability to foul off more pitches to stay alive, and, well, get more hits. A deal or Song returns. No other option…
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On the list of Greatest Omissions from Cooperstown - Non-Steroidal Edition, Tiant ranks number two behind Pete Rose. So that makes him the top omission about whom we can ask “why?”
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That feels like a dig…
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I’m not saying Pedro shouldn’t have been taken out. I’m saying I don’t blame Grady for leaving him in…
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MLBTR says what I’ve been saying https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/02/big-hype-prospects-jones-mauricio-vientos-song-brown.html
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They still had hopes for Middlebrooks at the time…
