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Unfortunately reliability isn’t Paxton’s strongsuit, either. Talent has never been the issue…
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The Sox have only scored more than 1 run in an inning once in the past 77 innings…
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Somebody stop Cora!
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Ted Williams thought so. Or was his quote “production comes from hitting weak groundballs”?
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RBI tells you very little about a hitter. Did Joe Carter drive in 115 RBI with a .232 BA because he was a great hitter? Or because he batted behind Roberto Alomar and Tony Gwynn? RBI depends too much on other hitters getting on base for you…
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Hank Aaron was a career .305 hitter. BA tells you he was almost as good as Johnny Pesky. Pesky probably deserves a lot more credit as a player, but in no way was he the offensive force Aaron was. And I don’t think he would have ever had any problem admitting that…
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I said it has less information than other stats. It does. Trying to correlate it among 9 players on one team doesn’t team prove anything. Why not look leaguewide at similar BAs and tell me if they correspond to similar OPSs? Are Gio Urshela (.303) and Lourdes Gurriel (.301) similar hitters this year? BA says so. Or Yandy Diaz (.313) and Nick Castellanos (.312)? Or Corbin Carroll (.308) and Joey Meneses (.307)?
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And does this correalation tell you they are equal? Which stat is more informative? I’ve asked you this numerous times already…
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Ok but which stat between BA and OPS tells you more about the hitter? And you should see Tampa. Yandy Diaz is good for the correlation. Beyond him, not so much…
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An example of what? Gee you named on hitter with a low BA. I guess you proved it universally. Did you get ever answer Noda vs Meneses?
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Really? Their top OPS guy was third in BA. Not top two. Also Washington
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Now do San Francisco!! And Atlanta! Or Oakland!!
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Probably more often than you find .000 BA on any player with significant playing time. If you’re going to use examples that only exist in small sample sizes, don’t discount counter examples that do as well…
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Batting average tells you how often a player gets a hit in plate appearances when he doesn’t walk, get hit, voluntarily give himself up, or happen to hit a deep flyball with a runner on third and less than two out. Unless that runner isn’t very fast, in which case the hitter gets penalized. Also all hits, be it a slow roller down the third bad line that the defense hopes goes foul, or 460-foot blasts that clear the entire ballpark, count the same. OBP measures how often you get to 1b by offensive means. It does treat walks like home runs SLG is BA but credits doubles, triples and home runs. OPS credits the batter for reaching base, treats hits based on TB, and either mitigates or eliminates the flaws in BA. Of the 4, BA just tells you the least about a hitter…
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No it doesn’t. A flyball hitter can put the ball in play more frequently than a groundball hitter or a line drive hitter, but he is very likely to wind up with fewer hits…
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Ok. If a player draws 3 walks and hits 2 sac flies but goes 0 for 5, is there value in that?
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It’s a good thing, but you went beyond BA to get there. Joey Meneses is batting .307. Ryan Noda is batting .249. Who is having the better season? (I avoided using Juan Soto here on purpose.)
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You made the sweeping generalization. I can apply realistic numbers if you like…
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Because I’m comparing the current rotation to last year’s rotation. Not theoretically possible rotations that could have happened this year to last year’s rotation…
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So there’s no value in a player who goes 0 for 1 with 9 walks in 10 PA?
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I’ve already mentioned it survives on its popularity. It’s not going anywhere, but what does it tell you?
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And yet you only cite BA…
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No it wasn’t. The point was “batting average is the least informative offensive stat.” Let’s start simple - what does batting average tell you about a hitter?
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Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
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Seriously?
