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  1. Bleacher Report lists the Sox as #3 on their matches for a Dylan Cease trade. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096703-the-top-10-landing-spots-for-white-sox-sp-dylan-cease-amid-mlb-trade-rumors They suggest Rafaela and Bleis for Cease, which is a trade I would make twice and pinch myself in between. Of course, they suggest the Reds as the #1 destination, with India and Spencer Steer heading to Chicago, which feels like a stupid trade for the White Sox. So now I’m questioning the Rafaela/Bleis thing…
  2. The A’s won 86 games that year. Do not confuse them with the 2023 version. Bassitt is basically the older version of Montgomery. He makes about $21mill AAV, and if he wasn’t 33 when Toronto signed him, he might have been able to get a 5 year $100mill deal. Maybe. Of course he lacks Montgomery’s post season success, which apparently inflates his value even more for some reason. Montgomery, being 2 years younger and with said postseason success, is likely to get at least 5 years $100mill. That’s the floor. And also the floor I get off at…
  3. … Which is exactly the aspect we have been talking about with them. And the only one, despite your repeated attempts to discredit the notion by expanding it…
  4. So what makes Montgomery a journeyman? And not Scherzer, who has pitched for Arizona, Detroit, Washington, Los Angeles, New York and Texas? I mean, that’s a lot of teams. He’s entering Kimbrel Kountry…
  5. That is because the Sox don’t draft pitchers well. It’s been going on for years, through different scouts, through different coaches, through different minor league development personnel. It’s not like it all falls on one aspect. Right now the two best pitchers the Sox have that they drafted are Houck and Crawford, both drafted in 2017. One in the first round, the other in the 17th. That’s not an indication of a solid draft strategy. That almost feels random. Of course a lot of it has to come from the pitcher himself. That can be hardest thing to fix…
  6. Yes, and that is the fruits of their drought. Not like the 2023 draft helped them…
  7. In the last 3 years Bassitt has a 3.41 ERA and Montgomery has a 3.48 ERA. Like Montgomery, Bassitt has also pitched for 3 teams over that stretch (journeyman?) but has more wins, quite possibly because the 3 teams he played for did win 276 games…
  8. Leaders over the past 3 seasons: Wins: Julio Urias, Gerrit Cole, Chris Bassitt fWAR: Zack Wheeler, Kevin Gausman, Corbin Burnes ERA: Justin Verlander, Brandon Woodruff, Max Fried (same 3 for ERA- with Fried and Woodruff flipped) xFIP: Spencer Strider, Corbin Burnes, Logan Webb K/BB: George Kirby, Zack Eflin, Aaron Nola None of these really tell you the best 3 pitchers. But the presence of Bassitt really makes wins the most questionable list…
  9. I’m no higher on Montgomery than you. Maybe even less. But I think he is going to cash in on his year. Look what one postseason did for Eovaldi back in 2018. And all that was based on one start and a relief outing in which he was the losing pitcher. Next thing you know, he was getting a bigger deal than former Cy Young winners…
  10. Flailing miserably throughout the entire regular season for prolonged stretches and accruing numerous good draft picks…
  11. Yeah he’s far from the guy I want them to most heavily target. I don’t mind him, but I agree with the early buzz that he is going to be in more demand than he should be…
  12. Exactly why many are advocating disregarding W-L records. The misfortune of simply being on a bad team can HEAVILY influence them, but it doesn’t make the pitcher any worse…
  13. This is an argument FOR ignoring W-L records in favor of other stats…
  14. Ooooh. Odd mistake, but what the heck. Of course Robert probably costs something like Anthony plus Mayer. Except the White Sox might not be so into Mayer since they plan to start the season with top prospect Colson Montgomery at shortstop. (Another Montgomery!!) For Robert and Cease, it’s a farm-draining price that probably includes Anthony, Bello, Casas and Teel. Or something along those lines…
  15. You mentioned 37yo Chris Martin, for one…
  16. And those are legitimate reasons to hesitate. But if I’m the White Sox GM, I’m not budging from my ask of Anthony…
  17. Robert’s price will be even higher. The White Sox unloaded 7 players at the deadline last year - all for prospects. They aren’t going to trade either of their elite controllable superstars for aging MLB players…
  18. Official enough for Internet forum blather…
  19. No team giving up their ace is going to want a 37yo reliever with one year left. Giving up an ace = rebuilding… If the price of Cease is Anthony, should the Sox do it?
  20. Point? Both of those guys got paid by other teams. The Sox could short change every pitcher on the market and return with last year’s staff. Think that’s a good idea?
  21. Andrew Bailey
  22. He was extremely good at shortstop in 2022…
  23. I’m fine with trades. I’d love to see the Sox get Dylan Cease, but he will most definitely cost Roman Anthony. That’s a lofty price in itself. If they want Anthony, should Breslow make the move?
  24. I don’t think anyone is arguing they are worth the money, but rather what they will get…
  25. Lance Lynn is off the market. Back to St. Louis…
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