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Really? Ok looking at it, that wasn’t the post I meant to respond, too. But it still makes your response look a tad questionable. But past that. Do you think those were the options Breslow was looking at or not? That Sale has resurrected himself seems like the biggest shock to me…
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Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Sale’s last 4 years have shown us that pitching is not always what defines his season…
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Given Sale’s past 4 years, this trade looked like it was going to boil down to one of two options. 1. Pay Sale $27mill to not pitch or pitch very little. 2. Pay Sale $17mill to not pitch or pitch very little elsewhere in exchange for a prospect that Breslow liked. The past four years we called him “Chris Frail” and described him by saying “you can’t count on Sale.” Are you sure he was really viewed as a reliable source of pitching?
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They got him after I suggested in February. So you’re actually wrong on this one…
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Dude I wanted him locked up for 2-3 more years before he first 50 PA. He’s the right-handed power bat with Gold Glove defense. Bad injury issue but otherwise the younger, better Duvall, whom I also wanted back. It was NEVER about his first 50 PA…
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Not true no one has written him off. Go back and re-read this thread, starting at post #3. I’ve repeatedly said this deal isn’t working out, but it did make sense at the time. In fact, that’s all I’ve ever offered on this trade since the season began. Like a lot of people, this deal looked better to me in the off-season when Sale making 8 starts was far from a sure thing. Also Sale’s past was definitely a factor. His 2024 season hadn’t happened yet. It was what they were selling, and why they had to pay. You’re so desperate to tell people they’re wrong that you just ignore it when they agree with you..
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I don’t think they view it that way at all. I think Breslow clearly has a lot more faith in Grissom than you do. And it’s possible he’s not deterred by a 65 PA sample size…
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Of course they’re concerned. But not to the point of writing him off, which has been done on this thread. Reportedly Breslow insisted on Grissom. That tells us he had some clear faith in him as a player. I don’t know what Breslow looks for, but Grissom’s track record prior to this session certainly provides some hope. And how concerned would people be if Sale was not looking like his 2017 self? Sale has 2.0 bWAR this season, and it seems like that has made a lot of people forget he had 2.6 bWAR total from 2020-2023. The trade isn’t working out right now, but it was still a sensible trade. What did people think Sale was worth in a trade after missing most of the past 4 seasons?
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His slump coincided with coming back, absolutely. Why is this 50 PA stretch more important than the previous stretch on a 29 year old Gold Glove winning RH power bat whose only drawback is an injury history that would actually keep his years and salary in check? Oh wait. He had a bad stretch of 50 plate appearances…
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Yeah. Cheering against O’Neill because he struggled coming back from colliding with Devers…
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Soto’s team makes it sound like free agency is inevitable, which they’re going to say no matter what. Hal undoubtedly wants him, but even the Yankees have limits. And this guy might be lookining at 12 years $600mill. The big question is - who will the other players be? They will exist. But who? I’m counting Boston as out already…
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Did you not read how that conversation was going?
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May 25: Milwaukee @ Boston 4:10
notin replied to moonslav59's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
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The thread title did…
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Huh? Post 36 on this thread as I see it is the one dgalehouse made that starts with “Patience is a virtue…”. I assumed it was that way on yours and everyone else’s. Maybe not. I don’t know if it counts posts made by posters you may have blocked, if there are any. What post did you think post 36 was?
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It sounds like they will be looking to until payroll, which in suggested earlier but was vehemently told was not the case…
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None of that has anything to do with Grissom. In fact, Grissom is one guy who isn’t a 1 year player or BBB low cost project…
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I get complaining about Sale/Grissom. But anyone complaining about O’Neill, whose OPS is still up over .850 and leads the team in home runs, and who came in for a cost of two journeyman AAAA pitchers, the type no organization has a shortage of, desperately needs to complain about something…
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Adding Soto to that lineup and ballpark could have no other effect…
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The Boston Way is impatience? A bunch of “what have you done for me lately?” fans? da gale house and I do not agree on much with regards to baseball, but post 36 on this thread from him sums it all up…
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But Dalbec’s numbers are skewed due to partial platoonining. And StatCast has him as far worse than Grissom. His “hot streak” that bulked him to his levels today included 3 weak infield grounders that went for singles and a “hard hit” single that reached the outfield, but was hit off Cub 1b/DH Matt Mervis…
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Isn’t that really the entire reason for the concern? If Sale was pitching like he did from 2020-2023, or should I say NOT pitching like he did from 2020-2023, is anyone as concerned about Grissom? Or do we look at him like he’s a potential good find attached to a salary dump? But since Sale is back to bring his old self for 9 games, suddenly there is this huge need to justify the trade. Grissom is who he is regardless of what Sale does. But it does seem like he’s not being evaluated that way…
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Assuming we have a decisive CBO…
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I think adding him to the 26 man would be crazy, but it also might be necessary if they need an arm…
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Sticking around .500 for a while is OK if you have the depth to hold on. Since if you can go that, you’re always one good hit streak away from the postseason. My biggest concern since, maybe December, has been the lack of depth. When pitching injuries stack up and fatigue sets in, who are the Sox going to turn to?
