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Everything posted by notin
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Mookie said a lot of things. I didn’t say you lied. I said Mookie spoke in Press-Friendly Talking Points. Do you believe everything players say after they sign a big deal? If so, then you should believe no player ever has signed for the money, and that money has never been an issue with any free agent ever…
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You asked how he would look in the rotation. Based on last year, he’d be behind Crawford. Miller is significantly younger, however. But assessing one draft pick based on later picks bring better is foolish, since you can make nearly every draft pick look bad that way. And if you’re trying to argue Miller was obviously better, bear in mind 12 more teams passed on him after Boston did. The 2023 Bobby Miller might not have been so evident in 2020. As for the Sale trade, it doesn’t impact Yorke at all. He was not going to start in Boston in 2024. He’s stil going to be one of the youngest starters in AAA this year, and he might still play in Boston or become an attractive trade chip to help elsewhere. If Yorke was the bust you keep claiming he is, he’s not a very good one, because he keeps climbing the minor league ladder…
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Oh, he said something in the press. Just like Werner said “full throttle!” He had a very significant history of playing winning baseball in Boston. Maybe Boston never offered him enough. Maybe he wanted some security in case COVID caused a prolonged shutdown. Maybe he wanted free agency until COVID made him re-assess his priorities. But that story you cited , while it touches all the Bull Durham Talking Points, didn’t necessarily agree with history. And most certainly flies in the face of the very point dgalehouse was trying to make…
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Incorrect. He hadn’t played a game with them when he signed that deal, and he was part of 3 AL East champions and one WS champ team in Boston…
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Then why did he sign one with LA?
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The only other options were trade him before he reached or let him reach and hope to outbid everyone else for his services. Are you saying it would have been easier to outbid the Yankees?
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Yorke is 21 and slated for AAA, where he will be one of the youngest players in the league. Yes players drafted behind him have debuted, although many of them are older as well. And 7 of the 16 players chosen ahead of Yorke have yet to debut. How about seeing how Yorke actually does before labeling him a bust because you liked a player chosen later better? And you didn’t even pick the right pitcher!! Spencer Strider was the clear miss every team made multiple times. As for Miller, ok how would he look in the Sox rotation right now? Is he better than Bello and Crawford are today?
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We traded Uriah Heep?
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I think they sign Paxton and Stephenson. And trade Duran and one of Jansen/Martin for a SP…
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The Sox can’t afford those!! Maybe plastic forks and Bic lighters…
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It could be, but history says it won’t. As did you when Sale was still on the Sox…
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No. Gray signed for $75mill. He didn’t sign a one year deal. The Sox only sent $17mill total to the Braves. Not $17mill per year for X years. (Well, unless X = 1). As for Monty and Snell, those deals will cost $150-250mill . Not so sure they get that much more appealing at $123-223mill…
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That would be freakish bad luck. The opposite would be a history-based trend. You can only act on the trend…
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Actually it does indicate moves like that are the reason why. Of course the bulk of that article is speculation. Believable speculation, but still speculation…
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It’s not speculation. I think you grossly underestimate what $27mill gets you in MLB today. It wouldn’t have been enough to sign Reynaldo Lopez. The following players signed deals under $27mill this year: Nick Martinez, Kenta Maeda, Tyler Mahle, Frankie Montas, Jack Flaherty, Kyle Gibson. And a slew of other less impressive names…
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Duran makes league minimum and has 5 years of control left and showed MLB how to weaponize his speed last year. Anything hit into any gap went for extra bases. He was actually an exciting player. I could absolutely see a team with pitching depth and struggling to add offensive pieces that fit their budget giving up a SP for Duran, especially if said pitcher is getting pricier. Cleveland, San Diego and Miami all fit this scenario to a tee. Seattle doesn’t have the same financial limitations, but does have the pitching depth and needs bats.
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No, that was the red door he saw…
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Actually it very likely couldn’t have gotten anything better than the dirt cheap 3 pre-arb years of Grissom…
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Now if the Sox use that $10mill on Paxton. Paxton (1.0 fWAR) was less effective than Sale (2.1 fWAR), but can Grissom improve on the (-0.9) fWAR the Sox got from 2b? And if they can just get one more SP for Duran…
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Less money = less return. Would you have preferred. the Braves pay Sale’s whole deal and the Sox got back David Fletcher?
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Aren’t those the little hot peppers at the salad bar?
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The trade should be done…
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At that point, Bellhorn paved paradise and put up a parking lot…
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Then the Sox made the right move for both them and Sale…
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Not what you said in post 3640 when Sale was a member of the Red Sox. https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/20823-A-Realistic-View-at-2024-Part-I?p=1580914#post1580914
