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It’s been established that picture was actually not from that day…
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There isn’ta team out there whose starting rotation wouldn’t be upgraded with the addition of a former Cy Young winner…
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Bloom is irrelevant in the Mookie Drama. Dombrowski tried to extend Mookie going as far back as 2017, but was never allowed to meet Mookie’s contractual demands. Bloom was just the hatchet man for that trade…
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So… thirty incompetent teams? He’s got some negative PR. Although we can watch Marcell Ozuna, who might carry more baggage, playing in the All Star game tomorrow…
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You can only buy what’s being sold. If the Sox stay in the rental market, they’d be stupid to unload one of the top prospects. That would be Bagwell-Andersen 2.0…
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If they stick to the rental market, this won’t be a problem. If they go after Garrett Crochet or Tarik Skubal (whom they are reportedly out on), you’re not getting those types without at least one of the Big Three…
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Ok, but he pushed it back for the guaranteed year…
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I am not so sure Sale missed all that time just from TJ. For example, he missed the beginning of the 2022 season because he broke a rib in his off-season pitching program. In 2023, he had shoulder inflammation. I’m not saying these aren’t complications from TJ surgery. But I’m not convinced they are, either…
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It is true. And we won't even get into how many people from this forum have a little notin doll they spend their offline hours sticking pins into and setting on fire. By the way, if you're interested, I still have some stock left in the Official Notin Voodoo Chile doll. Pull the string and hear the smugness! Pins sold separately...
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Reportedly another team approached Bloom about taking Sale's deal in July of 2022, but they didn't want to trade back anything worthwhile, so Bloom rejected the deal. And that was before the bike accident. Flash forward through a 60 day IL trip for shoulder inflammation in 2023, and Atltanta still wants to gamble on Sale, and maybe will give up a decent player. But that means in no way do they pay full freight. Breslow asks for a player he likes (Grissom) ad pays down the amount. Then it just comes down to Atlanta appeasing Sale so he approves the trade, and the Sox replacing quality with durability. (Clearly even Sale lacked confidence in his durability. He pushed back free agency by two years and even overwrote a more lucrative option year. Those don't sound like the actions of a guy who knows he is back 100%.)
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I hate the rule, but I also hate the exploitation that lead to it. It should have never come to that. It also could have been handled by eliminating/limiting September call ups (which was also done, thankfully)...
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You think you’re alone in nitpicking me? Newsflash. You have competition…
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He certainly had big names, but Bochy wasn’t unique in that manner. Look away while players used steroids? Lots of guys did that. Make 4 pitching changes in multiple consecutive innings? He was alone on that island…
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It gets done to me daily:)
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He was the reason the Sox paid $17mill in that deal. The Sox could have dumped even more money, but they wanted actual baseball talent in return. Atlanta wasn’t going to take that full financial risk and give up Grissom all at once. Even they had reservations about Sale’s durability…
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Ratings or not, Grissom made his MLB debut at 21 years 217 days old. As of today, Mayer is 21 years 216 days old. Care to revisit this on Wednesday? The man made MLB at age 21. That’s a crazy accomplishment, and not something done by an “ok prospect”…
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Fine. It made for fun baseball if you liked the Giants, commercials, and masochistic self-abuse…
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I’m sure they loved the success, but 1) it did make Giants’ unwatchable, especially in September and 2) lead to multiple rule changes so that no one can ever act like him again…
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The deal did make sense. Sale didn’t give the Sox much for numerous years, and there was a reason we liked the deal at the time. And now Grissom is an “OK prospect”? Some hindsighted downgrading? Or were the Braves - the same team you credit with seeing something in Sale - just flat out wrong when the promoted Grissom to MLB at age 21? How many Ok prospects make MLB at that age? I guess we should downgrade Marcelo Mayer to “mediocre prospect”, or maybe just remove his prospect label altogether. I mean, Mayer hasn’t even sniffed MLB yet, and unless he gets promoted tomorrow, he will be older than Grissom was for his MLB debut. (And there’s no chance of that since there are no games tomorrow.)
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Sure, but it’s going to cost you…
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I could see Carlos Estevez going to the Yankees…
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And if Henry, Breslow, etc. thought Sale would be healthy, this deal didn’t happen. And neither does Giolito…
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Bochy used the September call up rule to bring up every pitcher on his 40 man roster, and would then in tougher innings, replace pitchers after one hitter multiple times. You’d watch an inning for nearly a full hour and it would take a while for it to sink in that only 5 batters came up…
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Actually drafted players used to be dealt as PTBNLs quite frequently, because teams could use the 6 months before naming the player to partially get around the rule of not trading draftees for a full year. Trea Turner was notably traded in the deal that changed this rule. PTBNLs can still come from an agreed-upon list, and it can even be conditional. “If our new pitcher makes 20 appearances, you get A. 15-19 appearance gets you B…”, etc. The only change in the last couple years is they cannot come from the 40-man roster. So players like John McDonald and Harry Chiti who were traded for themselves this way are now officially a thing of the past…
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Bochy has been immensely successful as a manager, but he has to be one of my least favorites. He’s the (sole?) reason for several rule changes because he made the Giants so unwatchable for many years…
