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The closer by committee lasted like 2 months before the acquisition of Byung Hyun Kim. In that time it blew 3 ninth inning leads, resulting in 2 losses. The closer wasn’t the issue. A bullpen full of bad/mediocre pitchers was the bigger issue, and probably there was a Grady Little factor. Im pretty sure bullpen pitchers having defined roles is up to the pitcher. Some probably do need them, but others probably want to just pitch and get hitters out without caring about the game situation…
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It didn’t sound like anything new…
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Outside of maybe Murphy, I’m not sure any of those players are available. In any event, it looks like any future moves this spring will be dictated by how many players get moved to the 60 day IL. Sandoval was already moved to accommodate Bregman.. Variuos sources around the internet will speculate about Murphy, Perales, Whitlock, and/or Giolito being added. I do think first two promotions go to Fulmer and K. Campbell, assuming he hits. Beyond that, anyone’s guess…
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Bridge Year? After Chicken Gate, most fabricated scandal ever. Full Throttle was a blatant lie that actually looked worse when Werner tried to explain it. Roster Construction is an old term Thats been used for decades. Dont get worked up about one press conference…
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Does this deal do anything except make the Sox more expensive? It depletes both offensive depth and pitching depth. The Sox get what else? They get to bump their fifth starter (Giolito?) to the bullpen at the cost of three starting pitchers on the 40man roster, all to do what? Force Cora to employ a defensive lineup he already has?
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So you think the Sox should prepare for a best case scenario as opposed to a worse case one ?
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I’d go Crawford, but Seattle probably wants neither. And Allen Castro won’t change their minds…
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All off season, absolutely fans on this board wished we were more like the Dodgers, largely probably due to their recent success. I get wanting to be as successful, but that formula does include lots of depth, (and apparently playing players in new positions - not sure if that’s as necessary as the depth). Now the Sox have some solid position player depth and can withstand injuries, and people want to break it up, because the lineup “is clogged” or our defense at Fenway won’t work in Yankee Stadium…
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I was going by WAR and age. I actually thought the two pitchers were closer in age…
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San Francisco. Weak back end to the rotation. Super duper 1b prospect debuting this year. Pribably a few others….
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Curse that MLB rule that teams have to use the same lineup at Yankee Stadium that they use in home games. If it’s a minus in certain parks, it’s Cora’s fault for deploying it. And fans need to let go of their unrealistic “these are the starting nine” expectations. Teams simply do not do that anymore. Backup players make millions of dollars and get playing time primarily to not rust. The resting of regular starters is not as important as many believe. All off-season, fans wanted this team to be the Dodgers, a team that spends heavily, clogs their lineup, stockpiles depth, and blocks prospects. The second the Red Sox do these things, we have a bunch of people trying un-Dodger the team and get back to 9 obvious starters and 4 obvious bench players, one of whom must be that all important backup first baseman. Teams can have their entire season derailed without one…
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So what’s in this deal for Seattle? Saving $18mill over 3 years?
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It’s not necessary to move either one. This is a Strawman argument.
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And dealing Yoshida is the only possible option!!! (this is sarcasm)
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… which is a dumb criticism of a player who still has all his options. And if he’s clogging up the lineup, isnt that a problem created by Cora?
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steamer doesn’t give a s*** about Crawford’s value on a website they may have never heard of. But playing time is a factor in projections, and if a player’s role is to be reduced for whatever reason, it will impair most projections. Not ones like Steamer 600 that normalize it anyway. But Zips and Steamer? Absolutely. And this happens regardless of player talent. Crawford isnt any worse than last year; just expected to pitch in a smaller role…
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Normally, but Castillo is 3 plus years older. Is Castillo ages 32-34 better than Crawford ages 29-31?
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Then why get rid of Yoshida?
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If that’s the case, Seattle is unlikely to make this deal…
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If you look at Fangraphs, Crawford is projected for 54 games and 18 starts by both Zips and Steamer.. Thats going to dent his projections. It is a loophole, but it is also one that gets exploited in real trades on occasion
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ZiPS and Steamer both project Crawford as a reliever. 54 games, 18 starts. Thats reliever numbers. Of course he’s going to get less WAR than as starting pitcher. Whats tomorrow’s big reveal? That Cal Raleigh will have better projections than Carlos Narvaez?
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And that was when I jumped in - the inclusion of Fitts and Priester. But even the original deal was designed to exploit a loophole in BTVs system. That loophole involves players looking at reduced or benched roles despite their talent. Crawford might be looking at a reliever role. As such, he would likely post less WAR than as a starter, which would then reduce his value on BTV. As they allegedly use multiple projections, if one of them projects Crawford’s bullpen numbers, it would alter his value on their site . And that reduced value makes this trade look equal…
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So you think the lateral move from Crawford to Castillo that includes unloading three pitching prospects - two of which have already debuted in MLB - is reasonable?
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You’re changing the argument. The reason this deal is bad is Castillo is NOT an upgrade over Crawford. He’s just more expensive. Did BTV provide any insights there? You were provided WAR values from two websites. Why are they not in your conclusion?
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That proposal was LIGHT YEARS from being a good deal. Castillo (1.8 bWAR / 2.3 fWAR) is arguably NOT an upgrade over Crawford (2.0 bWAR / 1.9 fWAR), unless you’re looking to upgrade the payroll commitments by over $70mill. But to include two MLB-ready pitchers plus for the sole purpose of unloading a contract that is hardly a problem WHILE TAKING ON A WORSE ONE? Why not just pair up Yoshida with Roman Anthony or Kristian Campbell with Yoshida so we can pick up someone’s perception of a lock down closer??
