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I bet there isn't. For proof I offer all the immovable contracts out there. If there was a consensus as to their worth, many of these long term albatross deals would not be considered as such... .

My source was pretty weak then (or maybe an AAV source I misread). But either way an arbitration player has made his way to among the highest paid players in the game, which was the point. Now what's your justification that players are underpaid for the first six years?

They also overpay many of those players in their first 6 years as well. And right now the determination of worth appears to be an arbitrary process at best, and probably not one agreed upon by both sides. You present your argument as if it is a clearly recognized fact along the lines of "water is wet." Simple question - which is greater - money underpaid to pre-arb players or overpaid to free agents? Also the way the arbitration process is heading, the values are rapidly approaching the same numbers in free agency. Only 9 players have a higher salary in 2018 than Josh Donaldson received in his last year of eligibility. Not to mention, owners this year have most definitely been making offers. Wade Davisset a record for AAV on a closer. Drew Smiley and Michael Pineda each received two year deals when they were both out the first seasons of them (effectively making them high risk one year deals). Juan Nicasio, Pat Neshek, Tommy Hunter, Brandon Morrow and Addison Reed all received very high AAVs for non-closing releivers, but for fewer years. The AAV for each of these non-closers is among MLB best for non-closing relievers. While relief pitchers appear to have embraced this idea, the position players have not, without regards for how high the salary is.

Yes and no. Free agency is up to a point. When it doesn't turn out to be as advantageous for the players as they want, they cry foul. We saw one agent make that exact allegation, stooping short of the industry's dirty word. Right now, the market appears to be set. And the players simply don't like it. In tbe past , this lead to collusion accusations from the players, even in years where there was no lawsuit. The owners really have no equivalent charge to counter with...

I find it somewhat ironic that the so-called best labor union would have to scramble and re-arrange that much just to catch up to the rest of the country...

Like I said, Pomeranz was the better choice from an experience standpoint. I'd be surprised if Wright was chosen solely because he pitched the night before and therefore would be unavailable to pitch anyway...

There really is no Ellsbury market to heat up. Why would any team was a rapidly declining 34yo centerfielder even for $7mill per year for 3 years? Teams know they can get Jarrod Dyson for less and has the added bonus of actually being able to play CF. Or teams can trade for cheaper, higher ceiling options from Milwaukee (Broxton,, Phillips). Ellsbury's is yours. Unless you can convince the Dodgers to deal Matt Kemp for him...

It's just a silly way to trash Farrell. Wright wanted to pinchrun and using pitchers as pinch runners is a very common tactic in the NL. But all this "ruined Wright's career" is so overboard. Wright was like 32 years old at the time and in the middle of his only good season. He wasn't some blossoming prospect where the sky was the limit...

That has been the trend this year. But so far only the relIef pitchers seem to be on board with it. ..

They used to. But the LBPA had the clause removed citing pressure to perform. Now those incentive clauses are strictly participation-based..

Pitchers run the bases every day The real question was - why Wright? Hr had Drew Pomeranz who had filled that very role earlier that year in San Diego. .

What's also not helping is the fact that this isn't exactly the most impressive crop of free agents and next season might be. Three of the top 4 pitchers have had Tommy John surgery, which isn't always av permanent fix. The remaining pitcher and the top hitter were both notoriously late bloomers who are getting a little old for 6 and 7 year deals. ERic Hosmer is ranked among the best solely because of his age and really, he isnt anything special at his position, despite his desire to be paid like he was...

Well, it rewards teams that can afford a $25 mill player. And what does it do for players who are traded early in their service time?

And Bob Zupcic...

Well, we're almost there. ..

Sure. Someone more likely would be better. Or maybe even anyone at all. How about any pitching at all? The off-season for Boston started 115 days ago and Dombrowski hasn't added a single pitcher anywhere in the entire organization. ..

And I see no harm in any of them getting minor league contracts, something I can safely say without knowing who any of them even are...

Not so sure. On BDC, some people got upset when harmony compared Middlebrooks to Mark Reynolds. Turns out, he had a long way to go to be compared to Mark Reynolds. ..

And I see zero harm in giving him a minor league deal either..

It's not common or a big deal. If Buchholz insists on it, he still has to earn the spot over other pitchers. Not sure why people think a minor league deal means a mandatory appearance. If you think the Sox should be compelled to call him up just because, then we have the wrong idiot at GM..

That he might be better than anyone we have in AAA?

A minor league contract doesn't guarantee a roster spot. Just a tryout for one...

It's not a typical clause and players who do have one seem to get released about half the time. Really this is all anti-Buchholz stuff. Were it another pitcher or a pitcher who showed flashes but was injured on another team, most would be saying "Minor league deal? Sure. There's no risk." But instead we have people speculating about his health. And one guy who thinks Buchholz on a minor league deal is bad, but the oft-injured but successful when healthy Alex Cobb is a good idea...

Do since ERod is coming back, you're saying that should do it and y he Six don't neef any more starting pitching for 2018? Thankfully ERod really is a 200IP workhorse....

On a minor league deal? Whats the f***ing harm?