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Well it's been one year. How are some of the older free agents from 5 years ago doing?

So now we're all reading that JD is fed up with how inflexible Boston is and might sign elsewhere out of spite? So if Boston doesn't value him enough, the plan is now to sign with another team that values him even less? Does this make sense to anyone?

With Nunez, there's always the question of what he wants. He might be OK being a highly paid superb who rotates from position to position and gets 400 PAs per year. But he also might prefer a starting position where he is atop the depth chart.

I remember fans calling him a "Monday." From what I saw, the fans and press were very hard on him. He was at the time the highest paid outfielder in MLB history. ..

Wright is 4 years older than Porcello. ..

I'd rather have Porcello for two years than Lynn or Cobb for 4. Not only are Lynn and Cobb both older, but both have had TJ surgery in the past two seasons. Data to date suggests TJ surgery lasts about 600 innings, so both are at risk for another surgery and missed season during a 4 year deal. Also both carry QO penalties. So Lynn and Cobb might get you one extra season over the next four, and one fully paid season with very few IP. And cost draft picks, not helping a very depleted farm that would be needed to replace them. And Lynn's last season appears to have been carried by some BABIP luck. Just keep the cheaper, healthier and shorter term Porcello over these two...

Except that the first year of that extension was a year he won the Cy Young. So he's only had the one bad year since it kicked in. He got the extension primarily because he's very young for a pitcher looking at free agency. He's only a few days older than Bryce Brentz, whom many think still deserves a chance. That he settled for 4 years when he could have gotten 6 or 7 on the open market and probably well over $120million did mean the extension made sense. Jason Heyward got a crazy expensive long contract primarily based on age around that time...

The Sox might let Bogaerts walk to accomodate Machado. They've already expressed an interest in Manny once....

The Sox might not be so eager to move Porcello. If he isn't very good in 2018, moving him will be next to impossible. If he is good in 2018, replacing him for $20mill might be next to impossible. ..

Not necessarily.. It could also suggest each side has a set of terms and there isn't enough overlap...

Or his last two seasons in general. Reportedly he modified his approach at the plate to take advantage of launch angle and exit velocity Stat Cast data. In the process he traded BA and OBP for home runs...

Frazier's defensive superiority will give him better fWAR than Martinez, but won't help the Sox at DH...

It's not a monopoly. To fans, it's one source of entertainment to spend your cash on. To players, it's not the only league; just the highest paying one...

I just don't think he wants to be in Boston all that much...

And getting an equal lack of progress in all of them. At some point, it's his job to just pick an offer

Hey DD? Time to move on!! https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/someone-should-take-a-chance-on-logan-morrison.html

Maybe revenue sharing shouldn't come in the form of actual US dollars, but in MLBucks that are only redeemable for free agents and added salary. Or better yet, make them redeemable only in Bitcoin (or any of the other crypto-currencies). That way if they don't spend them, they might be completely worthless within 48 hours...

So it becomes circular to argue players should be paid accordingly. Not to mention, you're saying it's the cost a team spends in search of a win and not (as I thought) the monetary value a win brings to a team, which is why I thought it was BS...

Do you know how they arrived at that figure and why it appears to have doubled in the past 4 years?

The Sox do need Mookie. The Sox do not need JD Martinez.

I don't buy into Fangraphs financial equivalence for fWAR. I bet many owners don't either....

Yes. The Sox need more lefties...

I bet there isn't. For proof I offer all the immovable contracts out there. If there was a consensus as to their worth, many of these long term albatross deals would not be considered as such... .

My source was pretty weak then (or maybe an AAV source I misread). But either way an arbitration player has made his way to among the highest paid players in the game, which was the point. Now what's your justification that players are underpaid for the first six years?

They also overpay many of those players in their first 6 years as well. And right now the determination of worth appears to be an arbitrary process at best, and probably not one agreed upon by both sides. You present your argument as if it is a clearly recognized fact along the lines of "water is wet." Simple question - which is greater - money underpaid to pre-arb players or overpaid to free agents? Also the way the arbitration process is heading, the values are rapidly approaching the same numbers in free agency. Only 9 players have a higher salary in 2018 than Josh Donaldson received in his last year of eligibility. Not to mention, owners this year have most definitely been making offers. Wade Davisset a record for AAV on a closer. Drew Smiley and Michael Pineda each received two year deals when they were both out the first seasons of them (effectively making them high risk one year deals). Juan Nicasio, Pat Neshek, Tommy Hunter, Brandon Morrow and Addison Reed all received very high AAVs for non-closing releivers, but for fewer years. The AAV for each of these non-closers is among MLB best for non-closing relievers. While relief pitchers appear to have embraced this idea, the position players have not, without regards for how high the salary is.