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  1. Just because you were always told something exists doesn't mean it does. That's how the Tooth Fairy is kept around. Anyway I never asked for proof clutch hitters exist. I asked for a definition.
  2. An emotion isn't an opinion. That's why we have two different words...
  3. So clutch is an opinion? If so, then there is no debate. It's not real...
  4. Actually I haven't said if it exists or not. All I've been asking for is a definition. I'm open on the subject.
  5. Ok Bellhorn, let's look at it this way. "Clutch" is up for debate, as many are currently engaged in. But "choke" seems to be widely accepted. So is it possible that "clutch hitting" is really being on the receiving end of "choke pitching"? Did David Price choke or was Lonnie Chisenhall clutch? Or both? (Or wad Lonnie a little lucky?)
  6. Of course fear of failure isn't necessarily the same thing as being clutch. Given how often hitters fail, it better not be...
  7. So have you ever talked to a major league coach or manager about clutch hitters? I suppose I could also ask who wrote about it and why they didn't define it while writing. Seems like a poor way to address the topic...
  8. That's funny. As that I'd EXACTLY the direction I was heading in. We all think of choking and failure and clutch as being associated with big moments, typically the post-season. But I would suspect the minor leagues are far more pressure packed. Players like Buckner and Schiraldi and Scott Norwood might live in ignominy, but they also lived well. They lived their dreams. But how about minor leaguers who need to impress or face a lifetime of bus rides and winter jobs?
  9. Maybe they can. Maybe they also have a definition of one as well. But at this point, are you saying the entire argument for the existence of clutch hitting rests solely on the testimony of a bunch of people you have never talked to and likely never will? By that logic, I can prove the existence of UFO's...
  10. At what level were you playing when you lived in all this clutch hitting?
  11. Mark Loretta, an All Star who never banged a ball girl, preceded Pedroia at 2b
  12. That's a horrible definition. Far too subjective. As a former (?) lawyer, you should be keenly aware the definition didn't work for them, and doesn't work for you (or me). If either of us can randomly determine when a hitter is "clutch" it takes all meaning from the word and leaves it as a bare bones concept at best. And maybe coaches and players can recognize it, but our observational skills aren't as tuned in as theirs. And it's not like we talk to them about it. Bottom line is, if you can't even tell me what a clutch hitter is, how can you know enough to recognize one?
  13. How about an anti-stathead crowd?
  14. I question the idea of choking moments in a game where even the best hitters are successful only 30% of the time...
  15. Yes but are they human beings whose ability to handle pressure is beyond what you and I understand? What do you think of as big pressure moments?
  16. I like the start of that definition. Of course, it does require some sort of definition of high pressure situations. Bellhorn gave a good starting point that games in April have less pressure that games in September. Technically that only applies to good teams, since bad teams are still in the race in April. But I get the idea. I can work with "replicating normal performance." I disagree on the point about LHP. But maybe that's all part of the high pressure situation...
  17. That is an excellent point. However, and do give this some thought before answering, if we are talking about a hitter who excels in the clutch, does it matter? Isn't part of clutch hitting the the opposing team makes it as tough as they csn? I guess we really do need a definition of a clutch hitter. ...
  18. There is a big difference in getting a clutch hit and being a clutch hitter. Francisco Cabrera got one of the biggest clutch hits in Braves history. That never made him a guy they wanted up in key situations. The problem with proving or disproving the existence of a clutch hitter is the lack of any actual definition - especially one that does not contain the word "clutch." But if anyone ever makes one, it had to include David Ortiz. That goes without argument. Last season Ortiz had an OPS Off 1.021. In innings 7-9, his OPS was 1.046. Basically the same. But in Late and Close situations as defined by B-R, his OPS was .903. Still awesome but a little worse. So did Ortiz come through better"in the clutch"? Or was he just an awesome hitter who got some very big hits based on his hitting ability?
  19. Even if the guy with 28 hits takes 200ABs to get them while the guy with 24 only needs 100? A batting average already is a percentage in decimal form. All you're trying to do is modify the percentage difference from another percentage. If one Player A hit .280 and another hit .240, do you argue Player A was 40 points better? Or not?
  20. You mean the players and coaches that you never talk to and who only speak to the media in cliches?
  21. The Guardians were also without their best hitter in Michael Brantley last year. And spent a good chunk of the season without 2 of their best starting pitchers, plus the entire post-season. I didn't compare Texas to Boston. I said the AL West should be easier for them than the AL East should be for Boston. The mere act of being more likely to be in the post-season should make for them to have better odds. Too many fans seem to like sleeping on Toronto and think the AL East is already locked up...
  22. Just so you know, when you move the baseline like this, you're ignoring that hitters make outs, which is the overwhelming majority of their at-bats and the entire point....
  23. No. At 1% and 5% chances of victory, chances are very high you lose both bets...
  24. Are you trying to say the 1.4 rpg is a result solely of batting average? And not the 40 more home runs the Sox hit or the higher team slugging and team walks? We are talking about batting average ranges here...
  25. But you changed it to a relative baseline. That's like saying a player batting .010 is twice as good as a batter hitting .005. The reality both are equally ineffective...
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