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  1. I read his blog. It was only about baseball superficially and the main theme was self-praise...
  2. I'm a stat geek with degrees in engineering and math. I have played plenty of baseball. I also get my experiences in Little League and high school, etc. have very little relevance to MLB games. The whole idea that stat geeks have never a played and don't understand competition is condescending. And that's using the nicest term to describe it...
  3. So start an exciting one. You have the power. You really do have the power. Talksox added a button for just that purpose. ..
  4. I'm fine with labeling individual moments / h its / games / performances as clutch or choke. Attributing those labels to any one player across his career is what I question...
  5. I did. And Mr. Sale certainly gave some cause last year to have his maturity questioned. Hopefully his new situation works out better for him...
  6. Eloquent ending. The "stated" crowd and the entire sabermetrics movement in stats was done to start looking at an old gsme in a new way. Part of this was to substantiate or dispel many of the aspects of the game taken for granted. As for the whole "team player" label, or the more frequently used indivindividual terms of "clubhouse leader" and "clubhouse cancer", these should probably go as well. After all, these players are human beings, I have seen many times. Well, as human beings I expect them to potentially behave differently on different teams with different teammates. I never would expect any player to like or get along with all 24 of his human being teammates on any team. Yet I always ser players labeled one way or the other with no middle ground. I'm sure there are a few players who are always leaders and a few who are always cancers. But I expect the vast majority tp fall in the middle, occasionally displaying behavior associated with either label. ...
  7. Now THAT is painting everyone with a broad brush...
  8. I never said it was everyone.
  9. When someone argues that people who tried to disprove clutch hitters did so because they started off with the.assumption there was no such thing and only wanted to prove themselves correct, that is stating it was done with an agenda. And that post does appear in this thread....
  10. That's a very incomplete equation Ziegler was only around for a little over a half season homself. Why not adk if a full season of Thornburg plus a full season of Kelly plus a half seasonof Smith is more or less than a full season of Uehara, a full season of Tazawa and a half season of Ziegler?
  11. There is a big difference between believing in clutch hitters and saying everyone who doesn't is operating with an agenda...
  12. Pitchers who are typically not good enough to be starters are typically relegated to bullpen jobs. But one point about the Sox bullpen is the improvement in the rotation could and should lead to less reliance on the bullpen. Plus if Pomeranz winds up in the bullpen it might actually be pretty good. Starter depth might br the biggest issue. Getting decent pitchers like Niese tp take a minor league deal and serve as depth would be great but is unlikely. If health in the big three becomes an issue, the starter depth will lead to more reliance on the bullpen. So starter depth right now strikes me as the biggest weakness. Unfortunately it's a tough problem to address. The Sox really need one of the younger arms in the system to step up in a big way. I have no idea who has that potential. ..
  13. I'm questioning its accuracy as a label. ..
  14. Are you actually saying the clutch support crowd entered the argument without "knowing" the outcome? The stat crowd at some point did research and work and math. The non-stat crowd provided zero proof for the existence beyond "I know it when I see it." Yet somehow THAT is the side operating without a bias? Which side is really seeing their so-called expertise questioned?
  15. Not since "The Big Bang Theory" hit the airwaves...
  16. 1. Not what he asked. 2. Are you actually trying to say stat people who "disproved" clutch went into it with a pre-determined mindset, but YOU have been open-minded on the subject? 3. Exactly why would the stat community have a pre-determined outcome for clutch? Saying "because they can't explain it" is a cop out and incorrect answer. First, that's a challenge to that type of crowd. And second,*are you saying "anti-stat" people are always so open-minded when it comes to change and are willing to embrace anything that challenges their "expertise"? You know, like defensive metrics?
  17. Maybe they have. But then maybe it's just a redundant label. When a great hitter comes through in a big situation, is he bring "clutch" or being a great hitter?
  18. But is it choking if a pitcher's ineffective outing in the post-season is because the long season simply wore him out?
  19. Just because you were always told something exists doesn't mean it does. That's how the Tooth Fairy is kept around. Anyway I never asked for proof clutch hitters exist. I asked for a definition.
  20. An emotion isn't an opinion. That's why we have two different words...
  21. So clutch is an opinion? If so, then there is no debate. It's not real...
  22. Actually I haven't said if it exists or not. All I've been asking for is a definition. I'm open on the subject.
  23. Ok Bellhorn, let's look at it this way. "Clutch" is up for debate, as many are currently engaged in. But "choke" seems to be widely accepted. So is it possible that "clutch hitting" is really being on the receiving end of "choke pitching"? Did David Price choke or was Lonnie Chisenhall clutch? Or both? (Or wad Lonnie a little lucky?)
  24. Of course fear of failure isn't necessarily the same thing as being clutch. Given how often hitters fail, it better not be...
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