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Everything posted by notin
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Its not about stopping it Plenty can be done to prepare, however...
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I don't mind Abreu but it doesn't matter. He'll be a Cardinal. The Sox really don't have the pieces to make a good deal..
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Santana is the better player and Dombrowski has never been much of a drafter anyway, last year excepted..
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The Sox probably could and should deal pen pieces for farm. But will they get anyone worth it? We gave up crapshoot for Addison Reed. Do we think Barnes or Hembree bring back better? Closers, on the other hand, seem to command a good haul. I blame all you people who overvalued the role. But GMs think the PR of adding a closer pleases fans. So if the Sox deal a reliever, why not Kimbrel?
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The Sox aren't trading for Stanton. As I type this, Brian Sabean and his staff are traveling to Los Angeles to meet with Giancarlo Stanton and convince him to accept a trade to the Bay Area. The fallout then becomes the Cardinals turning to Jose Abreu. The Red Sox cannot and will not top their offer. So after sll tjis happens, Dombrowski will make an offer to JD Martinez. Boras will reject it, because that is what he does. Dombrowski will then sign a more amenable Carlos Santana. Book it..
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Sure it does. We have a very weak farm and every key player on this team can become a free agent in the next three years. Sure some might be retained, but every aging free agent the Sox sign reduces that number as well. Saying it doesn't exist yet is like being in the path of an oncoming hurricane and then saying its ok because the hurricane doesn't exist yet. A lot can happen to avoid it. A fire sale if the team is awful, which could happen if enough key players get injured. Maybe a couple prospects make huge leaps forward like Chavis did, and Betts before him. But certainly these things, especially the latter one, cannot be counted on. The biggest factor in the Sox favor is that the Braves have gift-wrapped a farm rebuilding starter kit for Dombrowski. Hopefully he can take some advantage. But right now, certainly the future of this farm is a pending hurricane. Does Dombrowski act on it or is he one of those rednecks who plans to wait it out because those weatherman always exaggerate?
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I have to give credit to Dombrowski for his ability to constantly make deals for relievers we can't get 5 innings from. If I'm Bryan Shaw, I avoid the Sox and this Curse of Dombrowski's Bullpen. Something thst has plagued him for nearly a decade now is one form or another...
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I don't either. But it's something he needs to consider. Trading Bradley makes a lot less sense than trading Kimbrel, but he is apparently considering that already...
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So you think there is anything on tje farm to provide hope going forward? Right now, there is nothing. but a lot can happen in 3 years
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Big deal. Make Smith Plan C behind free agent Bryan Shaw and Tyler Thornburg. ..
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I know a lot of posters scoff at the cliff idea due to the Sox weak farm. While the cliff absolutely exists, like any disaster 3 years pending, there is plenty of time to take action and multiple options available. The real cliff is July 31, 2018. If the Sox are in contention as they should be, they will have zero ability to make any deadline improvements with this farm...
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And the part I left out was the last step where the Sox use heir reamining international money to sign as many Braves' farm system refgees as possible. Maitan is not very likely. But maybe a few others from Severino, Gutierrez and Contreras. Otherise if the Sox need anything in July, they have nothing to trade for it...
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The players required to acquire Abreu are unfortunately in the Cardinals' farm system...
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Even the part about trading Kimbrel for a fairly light package?
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Simple plan Sign JD Martinez Sign Carlos Santana Move Benintendi to CF Trade Bradley to Cleveland for Danny Salazar Trade Kimbrel to Houston for Kyle Tucker and Hector Perez Sign Bryan Shaw
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Do other GMs have to agree?
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What prospects?
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Especially since they have the only opinions that matter in this case...
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Of course they could use some MLB talent to either trade or to get actual trade bait. Kimbrel leaps to mind. The Sox have other experienced closers (Smith, Thornburg). Kimbrel only has one year left anyway. And if two months of Aroldis Chapman is worth Gleyber Torres, Billy McMillan, Adam Warren and more, what is a full year of Kimbrel worth? I'm talking to you, Jeff Luhnow...
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Really all they have is Groome and Chavis...
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Something similar has reportedly been offered. At least it was Bradley plus. Not sure about Travis. He adds little but Bradley is a good piece. The big problem for the Sox is Hahn probably won't trade Abreu until he hears the Cardinals offer. And the Cardinals won't make one until Stanton is dealt elsewhere. But if Stanton goes to the Bay, does a Bradley/Travis offer top a package of Cardinal prospects? They have some good ones....
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So he thinks Bradley is a bad idea despite the likelihood of many parts of the rebuild being in place next year, but also seems to think Brentz, Beeks, Lin and Travis are intriguing pieces for the White Sox?
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So either I type too slow or Billy Eppler reads my posts...
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The Sox need to deal some of their borderline 40 man players to Atlanta for international slot money. No on e else will deal slot money with Ohtani in play and a chance at the Atlanta farm refugees available. Except Atlanta, who cannot re-sign them. Then if/when Ohtani goes elsewhere, sign the Braves former prospects with their own money...
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Travis ia ay best a throw-in, and not a very enticing one. Who headlines a deal to get Abreu?
