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The Sox had a pretty amazing run of successful prospect development under Cherington, and having one prospect who never made it for a variety of reasons doesn't change this. If you look at the Sox starting lineup, everyone but JD Martinez came up through the Sox system (when Pedroia returns to 2B), and only Pedroia and Hanley made MLB before Cherington became the Sox GM. Even elite prospects don't make it all the time for every team. The only real issue seems to be unrealistic fan expectations that ignore this history...
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I think he will have a decent enough career as a major leaguer, most likely just as a bench player or reserve. He just won't have one in Boston, but he will still make more money than I will ever see...
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Betts brings to memory one heck of a player.
notin replied to dustcover's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Or maybe it was when he jumped into Boston harbor to save those two women. Beyond media and fan speculation, was Nomar ever definitively linked to PED usage? He never failed a test and was not named by any sources, wasn't in the Mitchell Report, and was not invovled with BALCO or Biogenesis. -
Baseball in general had a massive cocaine problem in the 1980's, headlined by Steve Howe and his seven or so lifetime suspensions, as well as the 4 members of the KC Royals (Willie Wilson, Willie Aikens, Vida Blue and Jerry Martin) spending their off-season in prison on possession charges. The decade ended with famous Pittsburgh Drug Trials, where numerous players testified about their on-field and in-game use of cocaine,most memeorable of whom was Tim Raines, who testified in court that he used to slide into second base head first so as not to break vials of cocaine he had in his back pocket. It was after this that baseball started instituting their drug policies, which were to root out cocaine originally, but included all illegal drugs. And that was what evolved into today's steroid policies...
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Betts brings to memory one heck of a player.
notin replied to dustcover's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The Boston media, especially the Herald and most definitely especially Steve Buckley, had a very bad habit of proliferating that type of negativity about Sox players and over blowing any story whenever they had the chance. Remember when Buckley ripped Clemens for throwing a package of hot dog rolls at a reporter, like it was comparable to Joey/Albert Belle throwing baseballs at photographers? Hot dog rolls? That crew the Herald had, with Buckley and Tony Massarotti and Gerry Callahan, had to be the worst crew I've ever come across when it came to covering sports. -
Swihart may have picked the right week to demand a trade. Both Jason Castro and Matt Wieters went down this week and both are likely to be out for a long time, if not all season...
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Betts brings to memory one heck of a player.
notin replied to dustcover's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
This always struck me as another of those situations where fans thought they knew the whole story... -
Did you see what Addison Reed was acquired for last year? 3 no name prospects not even ranked in a weak farm system, at most one of whom will ever see an MLB game without buying a ticket...
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And then the fans ripped them for it...
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I updated that already. But really they have not wanted him behind the plate through 2 managers now...
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He started 78 games at catcher for Boston in 2015 and only 6 since. Really he probably only started that many because Vazquez was out that year and the Sox didn't have anyone better and very little time to get anyone else. Vazquez was ahead of him in the catching queue when the Sox finally gave up on AJ Pierzynski in 2014. In fact, it might have been the play of Swihart behind the plate that lead to the acquisition of Leon... And Sandy Leon did not arrive until midway through 2015, where he played sparsely. He followed that up with a 2016 season in which his superior defense and a crazy BABIP-fueled hot streak appears to have launched him ahead of Swihart in the depth chart.
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I see this this exact comment all the time. What exactly is the definition of a "Championship caliber team?
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This
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What exactly do you see in Swihart that apparently all the Sox scouts and upper management and coaches don't see? And when did you see it?
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Roger Clemens?
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So the Sox biggest weakness is the backup catcher?
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NL managers do it all the time...
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Playoffs? The Mariners have not been there since 2001. Mariner fans born during that playoff run are driving cars now...
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Did Kimbrel retire?
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The Sox had a good stretch of some elite prospect development. Look at their starting lineup. When Pedroia returns, only JD will remain as the sole starter who wasn't scouted, drafted/signed and developed within the Sox minor leagues. But even highly ranked prospects fail, and that isn't the fault of the system. It happens to every team. 30% of all first round picks never make the majors. And about 30% of all BA Top 100 prospects never make the majors for more than a brief call up or a September roster expansion. It's just part of the attrition of the game, and a complete overhaul won't change it...
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But will the improved version of Swihart ever be even as good as Leon is now?
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I believe most accept it is somewhat limited. Like I saidm his salary and versatility, limited as it is, are his selling points. Likely the Sox get back a salary dump or an aging or oft-injured minor leaguer who has also moved from "prospect" to "suspect"...
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You're assuming they think of Swihart as a catcher. And that anyone else does...
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Calling out #12. Stan Papi over Jack Rothrock?
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Also a common NL strategy, and it was in an Interleague game. If Farrell wanted to use a pitcher as a pinch runner, he had Pomeranz available who had done the exact same role earlier in the season with San Diego...
