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After looking at Wheelr's contract, maybe I have been too critical of Eovaldi's. Possibly even Price's. It just proves the old adage that I just made up right now. "It's better to be the guy who drives up the market price than the guy who has to pay it later."
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Very true. I have one in my car...
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It's also easy to get behind the trade where the guy we gave up got injured and has not pitched since and might even retire within the next 24 months. But I asked earlier - would you have traded Betts and Swihart for Hamels? Or Nomar for Denny Neagle? (I think I botched his name earlier.) Both were real trade proposals (per the Boston media) at a time when the Sox had a serious need for pitching...
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I think you might be oversimplifying this. Pomeranz was controlled for 2 1/2 seasons and didn't cost $30mill. Given that he had recently appeared in an All Star game and was having a breakout season for very little money, he did make sense as an acquisition for that cost. When the Orioles dealt Machado to the Dodgers, did the Orioles get Keibert Ruiz or Alex Verdugo? Those were the Dodgers two prospects at the time. The O's did get Yusniel Diaz, their 4th ranked prospect, and a lot of spare parts. Diaz was #73 on Baseball Prospectus list, and unranked by anyone else. If teams require an extension - and certainly some will - then Betts will be in RF and the Sox might look elsewhere for salaries to move...
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So we can back to some productive posting on this Red Sox forum!!!!
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Cole Hamels is a Brave
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It's much more likely your pitchers are flat out tired and sore than they re afraid by the time October rolls around. Severino has ace stuff. He isn't afraid of the competition. And he doesn't need a $30mill binky to draw away he glare. If that was the case, he would have topped out in the minors. The list of AAAA players with 97mph fastballs has a higher number on it than either you or I could give a name to. The Yankees don't need Cole, which is a good thing because he will be an Angel or a Dodger. But the Yankees do need actual rotation depth and to stop pretending Jordan Montgomery is the solution here. If the Yankees go sign, say, Tanner Roark and stick JMont in Scanton where he belongs, they will still be favorites in the AL East. And if they manage Severino, Tanaka, and especially Paxton's innings to a respectable 150-180 during the regular season, I think you will see a lot of this "fear of the bright lights" is magically gone come October....
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Reserved for 1) CF 2) 2B 3) SP and 4) Brock Holt?
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Favorite Red Sox Decade This Century
notin replied to 5GoldGlovesOF,75's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I think Thunder might be too young to remember 2018... -
Don't worry. No one will move your man-crush off 3b any time soon...
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The Braves have plenty of prospects besides Pache. I think Sox fans might be a bit overzealous about what the right to pay Mookie Betts $30mill is worth to other teams...
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GMs can't just look at "this season." Would you have dealt Betts and Swihart for Hamels? Or Nomar for Denny Naigle?
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Because Pache won't cost $30mill and because the Braves want to be able to field a team in 2021?
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... which is why the Sox might as well move Dalbec, who many scouts describe getting better with a plus plus arm, which does nothing at 1b. I'd try him in RF before 1b. If the Sox don't trade Betts, there will be an opening there next season and the farm's outfield depth is all but non-existant...
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So who was the better 1B for the Sox that year? Millar or Mientkiewicz? Bear in mind, Doug only started 26 games or the Red Sox. If his defense was so valuable, not sure why he didn't start more often...
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Actually the moderate overpay quantifier still means it's actually still roughly equal...
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Yes, but it was certainly not an outrageous ask for what I thought were crazy demands. Now, if I change Caleb Smith to Jordan Yamamoto, it works out fine. But I think the Marlins would rather sell high on Smith than deal Yamamoto. Also, two of the three players the Marlins give up are listed as "medium" (Smith) and "high" (Brinson) availability. Not sure where these sources are, but it certainly is important that a player be available...
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If the Sox are going to trade Betts, maybe they should move Dalbec to RF. He certainly has the arm for the position...
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Because he can play that position very well, and not everyone can. But the Sox don't need a 3b. However, a lot of other teams do, and most of them cannot afford Anthony Rendon...
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The league is full of players who can handle 1B, but 3B is different. 3B is one of those positions you can justify holding down based on your defense. Brooks Robinson didn't make the Hall of Fame because of his career .267 BA. Certainly Dalbec is no Robinson defensively, but reportedly his defense at 3B is the best part of his game. (And making contact is not.) Why waste that skill at 1B, where plenty of players move to? Especially if he hit .150 in his first two months. Would he still be a contributing layer at 1b?
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It’s probably an “ask high” scenario, but it’s all I can work with. Not sure if the priorities are MLB, the farm, or MLB-ready farm. Obviously getting fewer pieces might up the quality....
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Per Matt Cerrone, the Red Sox want "a starting pitcher, an outfielder, and two prospects" for Betts. Presumably they mean two top 100 prospects, but that isn't likely. And no team wanting Betts is going to strip mine their roster to accomodate him. But he is a proposal that makes sense. And by "makes sense", also works out on BTV, because that website, if nothing else, is objective. but how about this: Cincy gets Betts Miami gets 3B/INF Jonathan India (BA #51 pre-2019). OF Aristedes Aquino Boston gets: LHSP Caleb Smith, CF Lewis Brinson, RHP Hunter Greene (BA #57 pre-2019), OF Monte Harrison (BA #71 pre 2018) Sox get a SP (admittedly on a sell high), defensive whiz for CF, and two top 100 prospects, although an injury kept Harrison off the 2019 list. The Reds get Betts to couple with Bauer for their 2020 title run. The Marlins get a top 100 prospect at a position of need (3B) and a sell-high outfielder.
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"middle of the pack" were his exact words. If he is scared that Sox will trade Dalbec for such a modest return, then that's on Bloom. I don't mind seeing Dalbec traded in the right deal, but certainly I don't want to see a stupid deal. But I will at least have some faith that Bloom will make a good deal until he proves me wrong...
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If we count former all star Kelly Gruber, then your list has an even 12 success stories in the past 39 seasons. I'm sure there are others we both forgot, but the fact is success stories are just not all that common...
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And Marco is back, too. That brief cheer you all heard was moonslav...
