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Keeping Betts is better than adding anyone, but it does likely scrap any reset plans since moving Price is clearly difficult and moving the bulk of his contract next to impossible...
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Wow. You’re already claiming victory not only in 2020, but also 2021 and 2022??!?! Are you even remotely aware how these marquee moves have turned out in the past? Remember losing the closest World Series ever and adding Mike Mussina? No title. Then Giambi. No title. Then A-ARod. Most humiliating postseason loss in MLB history. Then Randy Johnson. Etc. You might want to reel in those expectations before typing your response about how “different” 2020 will be...
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But what happens if the Sox sign JD to a whole brand new contract before he has a chance to decline that option (which he will decline)?
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Jeurys Familia did it last year...
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So... Mike Shawaryn and Jarren Duran?
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Assuming equal pay, I’d take Price. I might regret that in year three, but I am confident about the first two...
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Closest example I can think of was Bernie Williams nearly signing with Boston. Unless you want t count Andy Pettitte signing with Houston...
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The big dilemma is - if the Sox trade Price, it will likely involve paying lots of cash and getting nothing back. Resetting is possible, maybe even probable,but not guaranteed. Can the Sox trade Price, replace Price, reset, keep Mookie, and still be competitive in 2020?
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Price in his limited innings was still worth more fWAR than Roark. Although it is possible the Sox add a reliever or two and use the opener strategy. That “reliever” might be a buy low starter, like Buchholz or Shelby Miller or Alex Wood who comes in and pitches innings 3-6 after 2 by, say, Darwinzon Hernandez...
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For some reason I thought he was a free agent. Either way, don’t really want him..
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Eric Hosmer
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Here’s the thing. If you trade Price/Bradley and go $8-12mill under the tax line, then you replace Price (2.4 fWAR). Tanner Roark (2.0 fWAR) costs $12mill, and I expect any other 2.0 fWAR pitcher to cost similarly, which now potentially puts you back over. Or means the team is probably worse, which turns into “Why keep Betts?” And that’s assuming someone take Price with only $12mill paid. It’s going to take an interesting deal to make trading Price worthwhile. Also Marisnick cannot be traded until mid-June (?). But Bradley might be replaced cheaply enough with a defensive non-hitter like Cesar Puello...
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Why not Eric Thames after we Dump Price ?
notin replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Not only can it not be enforced, Curt Flood specifically fought against it... -
That does pose the question of who replaces Price and Bradley. They won’t be free...
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Luis Robert will be their CF and is an early favorite for ROY
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Well that is his salary next year...
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Why not Eric Thames after we Dump Price ?
notin replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
If the organization is heading in the direction for all the things you mentioned, I’m not so sure those topics are all that irrational for us to discuss... -
Why not Eric Thames after we Dump Price ?
notin replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Casas was in high school 2 years ago. Can he get that first at bat in Portland before we start referring to him as being on the doorstep? -
It does make me wonder about Disney’s fascination with making animals compete in the world of professional sports. One can only wonder what pitches they turned down. “OK this is a story about a chipmunk who becomes a professional wrestler on the WWE circuit. It’s called ‘The Iron Cheeks’. Whaddaya think? Huh? $200 million to start?”
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I will agree that it was very questionable why it was largely ignored by the Academy, the same snobbish boors who refused to acknowledge the cinematic masterpiece known as “Most Valuable Primate”...
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If you’re posting on this forum on 12/30, your fandom is probably not so casual But there are thousands of fans who turned off NESN during the Hobson and Valentine eras and went back to their productive, fulfilling lives. . The Sox aren’t worried about appeasing fans like me; I’ll be watching. But they do want those other fans to be just a little less productive and fulfilled for 3 hours a day 162 times. And for many, the only way to get them to turn NESN back on is by winning lots and lots of games. I do think the Sox might have to deal Betts for 2 reasons 1) easy attainment of financial goal and 2) the return is less likely to suck. Many point out this will cause the team to lose fans, but it won’t if they win. Dealing Nomar for a slightly above average SS and a bench bat 1b certainly didn’t hurt this team, despite neither player being even close to his equal. It actually can be done. But... it is worth noting most deals of a superstar don’t get much back...
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One bad year. He was a good bounce back candidate. I don’t mind missing out on Shaw as much as I mind learning he was too expensive...
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What any of us want to spend never mattered anyway. But not being able to afford Travis Shaw is not a good sign. They might lose casual fans. But teams that aren’t winning always lose casual fans. If the team wins, they’ll come back...
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Why not Eric Thames after we Dump Price ?
notin replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Mostly because we couldn’t afford Travis Shaw. If the Sox add a LHH 1b, it might wind up being Greg Bird (ugh)... -
Sure, removing salary in order to get under the luxury tax limit is beyond a rumor at this point. It’s a goal, not a mandate, except that it was apparently a mandate. I would agree dealing Price in the end won’t do much to this goal...
