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Everything posted by notin
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I know. And yet some people still call him cheap....
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Or tell the guy who spent Mookie’s money on lesser players...
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Do NOT forget about that Phil Collins overplayed classic Tsut-tsut-tsugio!
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You do realize the Red Sox had one of the highest payrolls in MLB this year, right? Some sources have them third. Some fourth. All of them say among the highest. So do they have a commitment to winning or not?
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The Dodgers and the Rays. How did they do this year?
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Or, to keep it in baseball context, like watching a runner get caught stealing third base right before the next hitter singles. If he hadn't tried to steal, he would have scored, right? Maybe not, because it's a different situation so the hitter might get pitched to differently. The Butterfly Effect hits baseball...
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Looking at that table, shortstop metrics might be getting messed up by the shifts. There are a lot of guys who have nearly as many "out of zone" plays as "in zone" plays.
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But several certainly. UZR also involves more than just range. Having great range is good, but you still have to get the guy out...
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So the $365 million was not a factor?
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Adames might have great range, but a player can have a negative UZR if 15 shortstops have better range...
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This thread could and maybe should be moved to the Entertainment section with the Eddie Van Halen one...
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Assuming they did not strategize the starting pitching and just rolled out the same starters for each game...
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Not while Willie Mays is still alive....
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The Spencer Davis Group featured a 17yo Steve Winwood, if that helps...
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Fangraphs is a lot more user-friendly as they have a more comprehensive glossary and allow for easier comparisons that can be customized. I think B-R can do that, but only if you pay and since I don't, I do not know how good it gets. But with defensive numbers, Fangraphs is better because they can be tabulated over multiple years more easily. The single year numbers on B-R don't really tell anything, because a good defensive evaluation shouldn't be based on a single year if you want an overall picture of a player. Of course, even then, WAR numbers represent accomplishments and not ability. So there are always other factors that can influence them that cannot be accounted for no matter what, like the ability of the guy standing next to you...
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Yes. fWAR = WAR per Fangraphds formula. bWAR = WAR per Baseball-Ref formula oWAR = Offensive WAR. This is available on B-R in the "Player Value - Batting" section. Fangraphs has nothing with this label. dWAR = defensive WAR. AGain, on B-R, in the "Player Value - Batting" section. Why Batting? No idea. But nothing called this on Fangraphs that I have seen...
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Well, you can use them similarly, but those Off and Def numbers next to WAR are based on defensive runs above average with a positional adjustment. They're components of fWAR, but not oWAR and dWAR actual numbers. https://library.fangraphs.com/defense/def/ On that page, it looks like it could almost be Def/10 = dWAR, but if you try add them up that way, it doesn't appear to work out perfectly...
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Manny was about as extreme as it goes in both directions. The guy could run circles under a routine pop up and misplay it int a 2 base hit for one hitter, and then follow up with a leaping home run grab in the stands where he not only high fives a fan, but then gets off the wall in time to complete the double play at second on the next hitter. (A compilation of two Manny plays that did not happen in the same inning.) He sometimes looked like he didn't care about defense, but then part of me was wondering if he was not trying to decoy runners into challenging him, as one thing he had going for him was a high-powered cannon for an arm. And like a lot of outfielders with great arms, I think he knew it. Overall, I think he was a weak defensive outfielder who did not make MLB for his glove...
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It was eye test stuff. Like I said, he couldn't play the wall in Wrigley even after 7 years there. He struggled to catch routine fly balls for a stretch. UZR is a nice stat, but sometimes it also depends on the players around you. If the adjacent OF can take a lot of plays by covering part of your "zone," your UZR can suffer for it, as it's an in=zone play with no putout. Sort of like what we all watched Betts do to Bradley the last few years. So maybe Soriano, who did have some speed, leeched a few plays from his CF? Remember, UZR is a comparison to average defenders. A bad player can look good if everyone else just sucks more....
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Where are you finding dWAR numbers on Fangraphs?
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Mot baserunners didn't run on them. Some did. Sometimes you have one of those 8-2-5-1-3-1-5 rundown plays that get an outfielder an assist. Alfonso Soriano was one of the worst defensive outfielders and anyone who has ever seen him would agree. In 7 years at Wrigley, he never learned how to play the wall. And he went through a stretch where he kept dropping routine flyballs that go so bad, fans gave him mock ovations for making routine plays. He also had 98 outfield assists. Because, why not run on him? And while that looks like a lot of assists, what that number doesn't tell you is how many base runners challenged him and were successful. A number I assume is closer to 1,000 than it should be, if it doesn't exceed it outright...
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Roids. (Or defense, which is part of bWAR)...
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Yeah Henry has been soooo cheap. I so get what it’s like to be a Twins’ fan when Pohlad owned the team...
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Probably not as much, although the layout of Fenway might be a big factor...
