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And given how their off-season went, they also would have very possibly extended him. No team looked more prime to spend then the Padres, since they had an elite farm of cheap players to fill the gaps and their GM was under the gun to produce a winner, per the owner. Of the two, the Dodgers might have been the least likely, given that they had other potential mega deals coming up in the immediate future, primarily that of Cody Bellinger. (The Padres had Tatis, but there was no rush to lock him up just yet since he hasm't even reached arbitration.) So if the sox kept him last year, he would have gone elsewhere via free agency since the Sox would probably not be able to afford him unless they cleared massive salaries elsewhere (Bogaerts and ?) And if they dealt him, the only two teams showing interest were both primed with cash to spend on an extension. So - who offers the best package? And was San Diego still trying to pawn off Myers as part of that deal? Plus not willing to take Price?
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I’m sure Friedman was thinking extension and fairly confident in getting it done. Otherwise why include Verdugo? Bloom might have suspected this, but Friedman certainly never tipped his hand. But what other teams were even involved in rumors? At the time it looked like the Sox only shot at keeping Betts was to deal him, reset, and hope it all worked out...
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You do like a Front Office with sinister, self-serving motivations. It’s also extremely possible that trading one year of control of a $25 million outfielder will only appeal to a limited number of teams. And those willing to take on $48mill of the $96mill still owed to an aging pitcher struggling to re-capture his form whittled the field down further. And those actually willing to give back something potentially useful for that package isolated the deal in the Dodgers. I think if one of Bloom’s professional goals was to avoid media scrutiny, he would have stayed in Tampa...
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Now you’re using my Steroid Era argument. You just need to add the “Ken Caminiti Room”...
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Or Pivetta...
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Did your wife trade you for Alex Verdugo?
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Who are some of the 100+ you think should be removed?
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What if Correa extends with Houston?
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Eldred or Quantrill?
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Unless Mrs. Baines has a vote...
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A slightly edited version that takes out the non-DH candidates...
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The problem with that argument is Mike Trout signed a 12 year $426 million dollar contract prior to the 2019 season. Mookie 's agent was well aware and probably benchmarking the deal in some fashion at that point...
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Going with that last name you mentioned. He isn't opting out and he isn't getting traded...
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But better than Mark Salas and Rob Nen!! Edit: Does this mean you play Exploding Kittens?
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Tejada has 6. Vizquel had 3. For both of these players, the ASG was tough because of the presence of Jeter, Nomar and ARod. Even Tejada did not start making the team regularly until Nomar fell apart physically and then ARod moved to 3B...
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to be fair, thjat was assuming not paying JD outright to play somewhere else and therefore required taking back a bad and available contract. I might have been one of those who suggested the type of deals you would have to take back to deal JDM, and I probably mentioned Davis (or not!!!) by name along with a couple others, trying to match up some money. But I never advocated actually trading the guy - just that any deal either meant paying him anyway or taking back crap. Per BTV JDM still has a trade value of -13.7 Other similar players Kenley Jansen (-14.8) David Price (-14.2) Gregory Polanco (-14.0) Mike Moustakas (-13.0) Randal Grichuk (-12.6) Aaron Hicks (-12.1) Not sure when these were most recently updated...
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Fair point, although this exercise has still given me a lot more respect for his career as well as that of Jimmy Rollins...
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Well, if we are going to be so literal about the name, then we have to get Barry Bonds in there now!! And with regards to All Star games, that oenalizes players from teams that have smaller fan bases. Chaves (again, 38.4 fWAR) lost in all Star game balloting Shea Hillenbrand in 2002. In 2002, Chavez won a Gold Glove and a Silver Slugger, meaning he was regarded as the best hitting 3B and the best fielding 3B. But hey, the fans preferred Hillenbrand over him. And Hillenbrand was chosen over Chavez again in 2005, a season in which Chavez won another Gold Glove (an award Hillenbrand never won) but lost the Silver Slugger to ARod. So to sum up: Eric Chavez - 0 All Star games, 38.4 bWAR Scott Cooper - 2 All Star games, 6.2 bWAR Shea Hillenbrand - 2 All Star games, 6.3 bWAR Not buying into this criterion...
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I only went as far back as 1970. Harrah did come up in 1969, but did not do much that year (1 plate appearance)...
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The Tampa Way was more about moving players when other teams might actually still want them. JD's 2020 performance and his contract did not exactly put him atop anyone else's wish list...
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I'm mad at myself for not coming up with this line first...
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Are we certain the Sox did not try to move him but found no takers?
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But Evans did golf left-handed so as to not mess up his swing. Given how odd his swing and batting stance were, one has to wonder what exactly he was afraid of doing...
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All Star games? Come on! That's fan voting!! And the "every team" thing clouds it even further Eric Chavez played 16 years, won 5 Gold Gloves and had 38.4 bWAR, and played in 2 fewer all star games than Scott Cooper, who had 6.2 career bWAR. Is this really a criterion you are going to use?
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An even harder line in choosing bWAR over fWAR? If we take both into account and simply add bWAR and fWAR: Fernandez - 88.8 Vizquel - 88.1 Rollins - 97.0 Tejada - 86.8 Reyes - 81.3 Garciaparra - 86.8 Fernandez over Vizquel is a really hard line. And then the Tejada selection makes less sense, unless you really like the number 86.8. Of course, using this criteria Toby Harrah (51.4 bWAR, 45.7 fWAR, 97.1 total WAR) becomes the most egregious omission at shortstop, just edging out Rollins...
