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Dick “Ducky” Schofield’s son was former Angels shortstop Dick Schofield Jr. Also his nephew was Jayson Werth...

The weirdest one to me was former Astros 1b Glenn and former Orioles RHSP Storm Davis. They’re not related, but a teenage Glenn Davis ran away from home and moved in with Storm Davis’ family. Storm’s parents formally adopted him..

Spike Owen’s brother was Dave Owen. Tony Armas’ brother was Marcos Armas (that one I looked up). More importance to us was his son Tony Armas Jr, former Red Sox farmhand famously traded to the Expos for a certain RHP who I think was pretty good...

Otis Nixon’s brother was Donnell Adam and Andy LaRoche were the son of Angel/Yankee LHRP Dave LaRoche...

Joe and Dom DiMaggio had another brother named Vince who was also an MLB center fielder, mostly for the Pirates. Not as well known as his siblings, Vince was the oldest of the three. The description of his playing as opposed to his brothers wasoften summed “Joe is the best hitter. Dom is the best fielder. Vince is the best singer.”

I liked the Sale deal, but I had my worries...

I don’t think Encarnacion would be able to fill the same role as Marwin, and I am far from a Marwin supporter...

And Corbin had his share of health issues at one point as well...

Disagree. Sale is the wrong comp as, injured or not, he is underpaid. Through age 27, ERod has a 113ERA+ and a 2.86 K/BB and 10.8 fWAR in 699 IP. Through age 27, Patrick Corbin had a 104ERA+ and a 2.92 K/BB and 9.7fWAR in 745 IP. Corbin was paid $140million over 6 years upon reaching free agency at an older age than ERod should. Someone will pay him that much...

As I’ve said before, the talent was never the question...

They probably should switch just for the safety factor. As long as they do not go to the fragile maple bats, which are incredibly dangerous...

Taillon has been down in velocity this whole spring. No comments about it? Maybe Sale's loss in velocity was due to an injury that some folks suspect has been lingering since mid-2018...

None of which was the point. MY thoughts the day Sale signed was "Why did he sign for so little?" This wasn't some JDM situaton where no one else was offering money on an open market. This was a guy with only his option year left signing a contract extension for probably what I thought was maybe 2/3 of what he would get in free agency (and what his lesser teammate at the time got from the Red Sox in free agency. And yes, I think Price is less of a pitcher than Sale.) There are only 2 reasons. 1) He desperately wanted to stay in Boston to the point of giving up maybe $70 million or so. Of course, he still could have tested the market and still come back to Boston for more money and years. I have my doubts here, as these kind of discounts are rare, and Sale did hire an agent for a reason. Without never talking to either, I have my doubts that reason was to maintain the status quo for bargain basement pricing. 2) He did not think he was going to get a better deal if he waited. And the only reason to think that is he did not think he would make it through 2019...

Obviously I opened a Hornets’ nest with my thoughts that the Sale extension was curiously small. But the Eovaldi deal was just flat out bad even before DD started filling in the blanks on his Free Agent Contract Template. And you just know when he did, Clippit was freaking out. “You typed Nathan Eovaldi. Are you sure you didn’t mean Lance Lynn? Are you sure you didn’t mean Dallas Keuchel?” Dombrowski would have been better off letting someone else sign him for less and then waiting patiently for that new team to get frustrated with him...

The antediluvian blackout system needs to go. Just scrap it and actually broadcast your product without restrictions...

Just because there were concerns about the shoulder doesn't mean there were no concerns about his elbow, does it?

Absolutely true. And if the Sox were not concerned, Sale certainly appeared to be. He spent his entire career as the poster boy for underpaid, and could have easily gotten a deal in the neighborhood of David Price's if healthy, but instead took one in the neighborhood of Patrick Corbin. He missed almost the entire second half of 2018, and his 2019 he had a career high in ERA (by a full run!!!), FIP and HR/9 and a career low in IP and ERA+. That he had 14 good IP in ST means nothing. (Was he even facing actual MLB hitters?) Since that contract kicked in, he has 0 IP. It always looked to me like he knew he should take a deal now rather than wait and see about the market. And it may have turned out to be the right move for him to take the deal when he did. Maybe he wanted to stay in Boston? OK. But so did Eovaldi, and he still made sure he stayed for as much as possible...

Of course it doesn't. If it did, our staring shortstop would still be Pedro Ciriaco.

Last year, no pitcher threw more than 84 IP. I think the logic behind 14 pitchers is to not wear down the staff. If other teams are not doing it, it might become an advantage for the Sox, even if one of the pitchers is Austin Brice...

No idea. But he clearly can be effective at the 2019 velocity...

So with an equal amount of inside info, you're claiming Sale was healthy and the evidence is 14 spring training innigs? Some facts: 1) He was shut down due to injury concerns in 2018. 2) IN 2019, he made his fewest starts and threw the fewest IP in his career since becoming an MLB starting pitcher. 3) He missed 2020 and is out for the bulk of 2021. 4) He spent the first 6 years of his career on one of the most underpaid contracts in MLB history, and the extension he signed was absolutely far less than he would have gotten as a free agent. The deal he did sign was for roughly the same money as Partick Corbin received that same off-season. And while Corbin is good, his career in no way equals Sale's. What appeared to happen to me is Sale knew he was having some issues and figured trying to pitch an entire season would cost him money by raising more health questions. So he played it safe and took the extension...

No one is going to need that rest more than the pitchers. From what I understand, that is the entire logic behind the 14 man staff...

Check out his 2013-2016 velocity...

Less money. Sale, or to be more precise, Sale’s agent, probably had a good idea what a healthy Sale can make as a free agent. So why did Sale settle for that offer? Certainly his agent - whose advice he pays for - didn’t recommend it, especially since Sale spent the bulk of his career playing on a contract universally regarded as one of the most team-friendly (re: underpaid) in MLB...

I highly doubt Sale - who is only in Boston because he is prone to outbursts against management - would have let anyone do that...