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Trying for 3rd may have been okay but he stumbled part of the way to 3rd which killed any shot. Steve Stone, the White Sox color man summed it up very well: "Benintendi has proven conclusively that he needs some work on base running."

Rule 5.09 (a )(1) Comment (Rule 6.05(a ) Comment ) : A fielder may reach into, but not step into, a dugout to make a catch, and if he holds the ball, the catch shall be allowed. A fielder, in order to make a catch on a foul ball nearing a dugout or other out-of-play area (such as the stands), must have one or both feet on or over the playing surface (including the lip of the dugout) and neither foot on the ground inside the dugout or in any other out-of-play area. Ball is in play, unless the fielder, after making a legal catch, steps or falls into a dugout or other out-of-play area, in which case the ball is dead. Status of run- ners shall be as described in Rule 5.06 ((3)© Comment (Rule 7.04 © Comment). Catch Comment : A catch is legal if the ball is finally held by any fielder, even though juggled, or held by another fielder before it touches the ground. Runners may leave their bases the instant the first fielder touches the ball. A fielder may reach over a fence, railing, rope or other line of demarcation to make a catch. He may jump on top of a railing, or canvas that may be in foul ground. No interference should be allowed when a fielder reaches over a fence, railing, rope or into a stand to catch a ball. He does so at his own risk. If a fielder, attempting a catch at the edge of the dugout, is “held up” and kept from an apparent fall by a player or players of either team and the catch is made, it shall be allowed. 2017 Official Baseball Rules_2017 Official Baseball Rules Page 39 The referenced part about the runner(s) basically says if the fielder makes a legal catch and carries the ball out of play (i.e., he is completely in the stands/bullpen/dugout), each runner advances one base. The second part sounds like the fielder would be allowed to to use the top of the wall to propel himself up to make a catch (if he could figure out a way to keep a foot still in play, not sure the laws of physics would allow that).

So where is Steve Lyons these days?

Hence my words, "while not a secret". And it is admirable on the part of Eck. I just saw no need to expound on it and and have it brought up by, as good a poster as he is, a fan of the Evil Empire.

Yep but I was saving that information for later in the semester.

I'd take that bet. He's still on it and he's basically got to go through this spring training, which is going to take some time. That means he won't be activated before at least the middle of August. If he makes it 2 weeks at that point, I'd win.

While not a secret, I felt no need to broadcast that fact.

Another question is where is Steve Lyons?

Well the original article came out when they were on the West Coast, a trip Eck wasn't on (for personal reasons, he seldom does away games). He headed up to Cooperstown for the Hall of Fame ceremonies over last weekend; that was planned well in advance. Only the Cleveland series is an unplanned absence IMO.

Wrong sport (and you said you knew baseball )

Those are our catchers combined stats this year. Not Johnny Bench or Pudge Fisk, but not quite a black hole in context either. Although to be fair, both guys seem streaky as can be. Feast or famine if you will. Looked up the catchers OPS listings, Vazquez and Leon are 12th and 15th among the 29 AL catchers with more than 100 PAs, so middle of the pack. I was particularly impressed with that RBI stat. They may not hit much, but they seem to hit when there are guys to drive in. That's 10 more RBIs than our DH has and also ahead of Bogie, JBJ and Moreland.

Would you find the following player okay for hitting 8-9 in the lineup? .262/.306/.694, 48 runs, 22 doubles, 2 triples, 8 homers, 50 RBIs

MVP and a700 must be lawyers. They sure discuss things like they are; pick a point of view and never deviate from it. There is no profession in the world that purports to be more of an expert in everyone else's field than lawyers.

Time to give it up. In MVPs world, EVERY boneheaded play by a Red Sox player is a Red Sox coaching issue.

Unfortunately, the scoring rules say it has to be awarded to somebody. Years ago, they were a decent stat for starting pitchers. But those were the days when team actually expected their starting pitchers to go 9 innings (or more). Nowadays, it's pretty worthless stat overall.

How do you know the staff hasn't tried to make that clear to them multiple times? But in the moment, instinct will almost always win out.

Lets see, Sox scored 12 last night, Porcello on the mound today, sounds ripe for another shutout. At least no one can say they should have saved some runs from last night, they needed just about every one of them.

Don't know if they had it on the NESN broadcast, but ESPN on Monday night and MLB last night both noted that Devers on Monday became the 4th player in Red Sox history to record a 4 hit game before his 21st birthday. Tony Congliaro did it twice, once in 1964 (at age 19) and once in 1965 (age 20), and Ted Williams 3 times in 1939. The first Sox player to do it was in 1915, some pitcher named George Herman Ruth. Devers did it in his 6th career game. Not to be outdone, Williams did it in his 4th

A coach at the junior high level shouldn't have to do that, much less at the big league level. That screw up was on JBJ, pure and simple (okay, the real screwup was on the umps for not calling the infield fly in the first place). Just like Betts forgetting how many outs there were the other night.

You may be thinking of Dick Tidrow, who was at least a serviceable reliever for the Evil Empire in the mid-70s. But those deals have nothing on the incestuous relationship between the Yankees and the Kansas City Athletics in the late 50s. Notables who went from KC to NY: Ralph Terry, Hector Lopez, Roger Maris, Art Ditmer, Clete Boyer, Bob Cerv and Harry Simpson, most acquired for castoffs. Cerv and Terry were originally signed by the Yankees, dealt to KC for a couple of years and then reacquired. The attached article has a more complete list, but the bottom line was that the KC Athletics of those years were serving as a virtual farm club for the Yankees. It notes that of the players on the 1961 Yankees (one of the best teams of all time) 10 had played with the Athletics. http://scout.com/mlb/athletics/Article/Athletics-History-KC-As-Yankees-Pipeline-104402240

Maybe, but if Benintendi is pressed into playing 3rd base, this team is in real trouble.

Or what?

You mean like last night?

Bogaerts was the killer out in that inning.

Both Hanley and Moreland got good pitches to hit. You can't just stand their and take hittable pitches all the time; hittng 0-2 or 1-2 is a sure recipe for disaster. Got to do somethimg with them though.