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I think harmony is right about SEA saying no. They might even say no to: Casas, Abreu & Yoshida for Miller, Haniger ($15.5M in '25) and Garver ($13.5M in '25) (We are down $9M in '25 but up $18M in '26 and '27 for a net +$27M. Essentially, SEA pays Yoshi $9M x 3 yrs, which seems reasonable.) Now, Ref can retire and we have a RHB back up in RF to go with Anthony. We have a RHB to DH (Garver) and be a 3rd Catcher. Most of all, we get a very good SP'er for 5 years, at a low cost. We'd need to fix 1B (Devers?) and then 3B (Meidroth and or Campbell?) C: Wong & Garver (Teel, when ready) 1B: Devers (Meidroth/Romy) 2B: Mayer, DHam (Campbell) SS: Story (Mayer, Romy) 3B: Campbell, Meidroth LF: Duran CF: Rafaela RF: Anthony, Haniger DH: Garver/Haniger- DHam/EValdez We take a hit on O but improve the D and pitching for $9M a year plus what Miller gets in arbs.

I think you are underselling Abreu or overselling average middle inning guys. Who is an average middle inning guy? Bernardino? Kelly? Wink? I don't see an average middle man being equal to a good defensive RF'er that is top 30 in OPS and has 5 years of control at a low cost. I do think he's more of a major piece in a package with a better player, but stand alone, he gets 2 mid guys or a very good 8th inning guy or maybe a decent #4 SP or top #4 type.

TIP O'Neill with the megabomb! WOW!!!

Another bite by the snake.

I thought about adding Haniger and Abreu w no Mets involved.

Most RP'ers, even the good ones, have periods of ups and downs. My guess is, both of these guys, along with I Campbell get long looks, next spring and maybe into summer. I'm not sure I'd write him off, so quickly. His 3.90 xFIP from the start of '23 to July 15th, 2024, ranks top 60 among MLB RP'ers with 59 or more IP. Weissert has a 4.00 xFIP from 2023-2024 (73 IP.) soxprospects,com wrote this: Slider: 79-82 mph. Plus pitch, heavy usage. Sweeping two-plane movement. Fastball: 93-96 mph. Throws both a four-seam and sinker at about the same velocity and release point, the sinker just has more movement to it. Average potential for both pitches.. Previously threw a low 90s cutter, has seemingly phased that pitch out of his arsenal. Changeup: 83-86 mph. Shows late fade down and away from lefties. Show-me pitch. Career Notes: Rated as having the best slider in the Yankees' system in 2021. Was the International League Pitcher of the Year in 2022. Acquired from New York with Richard Fitts and Nicholas Judice for Alex Verdugo in December 2023. Summation: Potential solid depth reliever. Ceiling of a middle reliever. Has a funky delivery and bat-missing ability with his fastball and slider combo, but held back by inconsistent command.

Certainly, some of ben's additions helped get that 2013 ring, but yes, the "bulk" of returning players were more important: Papi, Lester, Jake, Pedey, Lackey, Nava, Buch, Doubront, Miller, Tazawa and several more. The additions list was short, namely Vic, Uehara, Napoli, Drew and Dempster. The farm left was not great, but it included Bogey, Iggy, Barnes & Middy

2024 Jackson Holliday 2023: Gunnar Henderson 2022: Andy Rutschman 2020-2021: Wander Franco 2019:Vlad Guerrero 2018: Ronald Acuna 2017: Beni 2016: Corey Seager 2015: Kris Bryant 2014: Byron Buxton 2013: J Profar 2011-2012: Harper 2010: J heyward 2009: M Weiters 2008: Jay bruce 2007: Dice K D Young, J Mauer (2), Texiera, Beckett, Hamilton, Ankiel, Drew, A jones (2), ARod, C Floyd, B taylor, Van Poppel, S Avery

No doubt, and he left a nice core for Ben, despite some budget issues and a lesser farm than when he was the GM.

He may just be a flash in the pan, but his speed and base-stealing skills are for real. He is okay at 2B, but he is below average at SS, on defense. It will all come down to his OBP, which will feed into the speed aspect of his strength. Until Mayer or Campbell take the 2B job, I see a DHam platoon situation with Grissom or Romy to start the 2025 season. He is making the Renfroe- JBJ trade look a little better, years later.

Didn't some claim Larry landed Schill?

Gotta like having #1. Who were their most recent #1's?

I'm super pumped with optimism for the everyday 13 and the depth, there. We need pitching to win a ring, and it's not in the system, now. We need to add 3-4 pitchers to have a shot at the next ring.

It's been a long time! Pedro- trade The Duke Lester- draft Theo Beckett- trade Theo Sale- trade DD Wake- FA The Duke Schilling- trade Theo ERod- trade Ben Buch- draft Theo Porcello- trade Ben Price- signed by DD D Lowe- trade The Duke Lackey- signed by Ben Nate- trade DD Dice-K- signed by Theo Houck-draft DD I probably missed some, and the best since DD... Pivetta- trade Bloom

You like what you see on Abreu, or not?

On Wilyer Abreu and his value: He has largely been used as a platoon batter, as he started 89 of 104 games vs a RH'd SP and only 5 vs 41 LH'd SP'ers, but he also missed 3 weeks with an injury in June. Of course, no platoon batter will ever have really top value, and we must consider this: OPS when starting vs RHP: .853 and .643 v LH'd SP'er (better than his overall splits of .876/.511.) Fangraphs has his RF defense as being very good: +5 OAA, +10 DRS and +4.2 UZR/150. The guy just turned 25, this summer. Some are saying his trade value equals a mid RP'er. I think he is worth a decent #3/4 SP'er or very good set-up man- maybe 2 decent set-up men. Any thoughts?

I do think they see him as a SP'er for 2025, and the questions are only among fans like me. I think he'd be a very good mid/long man out of the pen- maybe a spot start, here and there. (Same with Whitlock.)

He did have a nice 4 game start to 2024.

True, you'd be working "for" us.

With Fitts and Priester, I think not. Are we sure Whitlock is done as a SP'er for this team? Will Gio start the season on the IL? Has Crawford become a pen vs rotation choice for 2025? Too many unknowns.

A possible 40 Man Roster on Opening Day 2025: (38 listed, including 3 pitcher additions.) SP: ____, Houck, Giolito (IL?) Crawford, Bello Criswell, Priester, Fitts, Dobbins (R5,) Perales (to IL) RP: Hendriks, _____, Slaten, Whitlock, _____, Winckowski, Kelly, Bernardino Booser, Weissert, I Campbell, Guerrero, Fulmer (R5) C: Wong, Heineman or ____ 1B: Casas 2B: DHam, Grissom, SS: Story, Romy 3B: Devers LF: Duran CF: Rafaela, Jh Garcia (R5) RF: Abreu, Refsnyder DH: Yoshida, E Valdez Add 2 from below or new additions: Bubble: Mata, Murphy, Wikelman, Horn, Sogard, Gasper Bubble Rule 5: Gambrell, Liu, Bastardo, Monegro, Castro, Sikes, Jordan

Bobby Dee went unclaimed and is now a non-40 man roster player for Woo.

What adds intrigue is the fact that none of the top 5 MAJOR LEAGUE READY prospects need to be protected for Rule 5, this winter. It is often the case, teams hold off adding them to the 40 (and 26,) as long as possible, so they can keep as many viable options on the roster for opening day. Players going on the 60 Day IL cannot be placed there, until after opening day, and this further tightens the screws on roster selections. Now, we could place perales on the 60 day, after opening day, and add Anthony or Campbell, immediately afterwards, if we want them to have a slot. (Even if Perales is not placed on the 60-day IL, he is a player who will not see ML action in 2015, but takes up a slot on the 40. Wikelman is another, and he may need to be traded or DFA'd, if we face a roster crunch. I do think we have plenty of players we can DFA without causing too much concern, and we will very likely make some trades from bottlenecked positions, but most other teams are looking at roster crunches, too and aren't looking at adding more "bubble players" to their mix. To make an extra slot, we'd have to trade 2 or 3 for 1, or trade a 40 man guy for a lower prospect.

I'm not sure how we'd be "underachievers," if we stayed in the race longer than expected.

If we don't trade Abreu, we can wait until the end of April to call-up Anthony, and IMO, we should. I was told, that is all it takes to get that "extra year." If we do trade Abreu, then I'd think long and hard about going light for a few weeks for that extra year. I do think there is an excellent chance Anthony breaks camp on the big club. (Maybe Campbell, too, but we have a lot of guys who play 2B that might do well enough to push him back 3 weeks.)