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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
moonslav59 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
We knew some would never stick at SS, and that's why it wasn't such a big deal. Many teams put their best athlete at SS, but that does not make them a ML SS. It just means we draft the best athletes. Zanetello looks like a wasted pick. Antonio Anderson has a ways to go, but who complains about the Campbell pick, and if he ends up at 2B or OF? Riemer was the 4th SS in our top 6 picks in '23. He may make it. It looks like Arias will stick at SS, if his bat can keep him good enough to make the bigs. No SSs taken in 2024 (Cason is P/SS), so let's see how this works out. Romero can't stay healthy, but he seems to have stepped up, this year. Cutter Coffey was traded Lugo was traded but was not going to be a SS. All-in-all, I think we did okay with picking SSs, although none have made it yet. 2 Mayer, 3 Campbell, 7 Arias, (Meidroth is #9 and can play SS) 10 Cespedes and 14 Romero. 2 of our top 7 were SSs. 5 of the top 10 were SSs or can play SS 6 of 14, the same. Let's give 'em a chance. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
moonslav59 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
This would be fine, and the pen would be improved by moving SP'ers to the pen, but we'd still need serious pen upgrades. -
Yes, I saw you had Fitts on your "small list," but he seemed to look good enough to make a medium category. Perales won't stay injured forever. Maybe saying he is on the "small" list for 2025 is okay, but not for 2026, IMO. Priester is no longer a prospects, but he might as well be one. He's maybe borderline small-medium. Dobbins gets little love, and I get why, but he keeps doing well. I'm not gah gah over our farm pitchers, but I think it looks better than 5-10 years ago, and there are quite a few pitchers who have some real promise, even if the promise is rather a long shot or too far away to get excited about. Perales, Fitts, Tolle, Sandlin Dobbins, E Rodriguez, Monegro, Cason, Valera Early, Mullins, Paez, Wikelman, D Reyes, Wehunt, Neely, Bastardo Dean, Clarke, Tygart, Carlson, Ingrassia, Gambrell, Mata I know I sound two-faced to be touting quantity, when I keep talking about need quality not quantity and mediocrity gets us nowhere, but when it comes to prospects, having so many will likely lead to someone doing way better than anyone expected. Nobody thought all that much about Houck, Bello, Crawford and Whitlock, but they all did better than most thought they'd be.
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
moonslav59 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I know it is risky suggesting a Mayer trade, with no sure-handed back-up SS in the system. That leads me to think the idea of moving Devers to 1B and or DH and keeping Mayer a better idea. Decide who is best at 3B: Mayer or Campbell. If they still have faith in Grissom, and he does well in ST'ing, maybe he joins the mix at 3B. Maybe choose one, but give another some reps there- just in case. 1B/DH: Devers & Casas (Romy/Wong) 2B: Campbell or Mayer with Grissom-DHam platoon as depth. (Romy) SS: Story or Mayer (Romy/Meidroth) 3B: Mayer, Campbell or Grissom w Devers as depth (Meidroth AAA) Don't spend on a 3Bman. If someone gets hurt, maybe we try Meidroth at 3B or just move Devers back, in a pinch. If Story gets hurt: Mayer at SS, Campbell/Grissom at 3B and Campbell or DHam-Grissom at 2B. I think we would still have decent depth at all 4 infield positions and a solid 5 batters at IF and DH. The defense would be significantly better- just with Story or Mayer at SS and anyone else at 3B. DHam was damn good at 2B, and Campbell has to be better than EValdez and a few others we tried at 2B in '24. Better O. Better D. Why not? -
No Medium Perales, Sandlin, Fitts, Tolle?
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They can shorten the season to 154 or go with 3 games series in round 1 and 5 game series in rd 2. Lessen days off between playoff games.
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I see two options, if we move Devers off 3B: FT DH 1B/DH share with Casas (or trade Casas)
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Apology accepted and no problems from me. I think if you discount 2016 and 2017, you should discount how badly we played in 2019. That team was a really good team that hit hard times, all at once. He built a damn good team from 2016 to 2019. It's not easy building a 4 year team. He caught a lot of grief for trading away about 20 prospects that were once top 20, but as it turned out, noce were as good as all the experts thought they were. On top of that, he kept Devers and some others like Houck, Duran, Rafaela, Crawford and Bello. On the spending. It was not his fault JH gave him what he wouldnt give Ben or Bloom. But, he was spot on on just about every big signing and trade. Like he had a 90% hit rate. Nobody does that. Bloom was like 30%. Brez was 0% on his 2 biggest deals- better on the rest. Ben swung and missed wildly. I have zero beef with DD.
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I totally agree, and much of the beef we had was with the Sox not landing the big FAs the Yanks kept getting. Then, the Joe Rudi & Fingers deal was nixed. We broke up a very beloved team. Let Fisk walk by sending him his contract a day too late. Traded Lynn, Burleson, Hobson, Lee, Cooper and others. Let Tiant walk. That was a sickening time for Sox fans, and maybe why I am not so harsh on JH as some. I'm also not harsh on DD, Bloom or Brez, nor was I on Ben or Theo in the later years. These guys tried more than those back in those days.
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According to the Fielding Bible... Abreu was the best RF'er in MLB at +18. Duran was #1 in CF, despite playing just 820 innings there (+17) Rafaela was 3rd in CF is just over 630 innings (+12) DHam was 6th at 2B (+8) in just 267 innings (He's # in DRS/inning) OF: #2 Duran (+23 in 1420) #3 Abreu (+16 in 960) #7 Rafaela (12 in 634) Devers 2nd worst at 3B (-9)
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Agreed, and we do know the Sox management team likes him. RHB: check Decent defensive catcher: check Decent pop: check (29 HRs per 650 PAs) I'd be okay with a 50-50 split between Wong and Jansen, or even more starts by Jansen, as we wait for Teel to be promoted.
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Next step: 16 teams make it to the dance, and nobody gets a bye series.
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It could be as simple as JH saw the tremendous window we had with the kids, Betts, Bogey, JBJ, Devers and others, so he added Sale, Price, Porcello, JD, Nate and others, but knew all along, he was never going to just keep spending more and more as the star young players reached free agency and the aging free agent signing started their inevitable decline. This does not speak to any plans of creating a new window, but there does seem to be some signs for a new great big picture window opening wide, soon. I have no idea what JH's future plans are, but he did go all in through the DD era. Some will argue, we are paying the price Max is speaking of, now and over 5 of the last 6 seasons. It is pretty telling that the biggest contracts in MLB belong mostly to a handful of teams: LAD: 1 Ohtani, 3 Betts, 9 Yamamoto NYY: 4. Judge, 9. Stanton, 12. Cole SDP: 5. Machado (2 deals) , 7. Tatis, 17. Bogey NYM: 6. Lindor PHI: 8. Harper, 14. T Turner _____________________ TEX: 9 Seager, LAA: 2. Trout, BOS: 13. Devers, KCR 16. Witt ______________________ Highest AAV LAD: 1, Ohtani, 13. Bauer NYM: 2. Scherzer, 3. Verlander, 12. Lindor NYY: 5 Judge, 7. Cole 5 of top 7 w 3 teams and 7 or top 12, too.
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I'd put RHB way below Pen and rotation help. We do need a back-up or starting catcher for a bridge year to Teel, so maybe there is a way. I trust Campbell as the RHB we need. I trust Anthony's splits that show he hits lefties well. I trust that almost all our batters are pre-prime or prime and most should improve over 2024. Assuming a limited budget and not allowing a blockbuster prospect trade, we might not have enough resources to fill 1 SP slot and 2 pen slots with high quality and then have anything left for a real good RHB.
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Yup. I wasn't trying to say Bello was better because he had a couple more starts and a few more IP. I was just trying to show their numbers are close. Here is more: Bello Crawford: 4.31 FIP and 3.6 K:BB ('23-'24) 1.5 HR/9 Bello: 4.36 FIP and 2.6 K:BB ('23-'24) 1.2 HR/9 They are about as close to identical as can be. I can't say why I prefer Bello, but I'm not happy with any of our SP'ers, beyond Houck. We have 4 mehs and Houck.
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It's just a way of saying how good they are. If they all stay healthy, they all get 32-33 starts, so in that sense, it makes no difference what we call them, but if you have 5 starters in the bottom 20% of SP'ers, it's worse than 5 that are in the bottom 20-40% (or #4's by my reckoning) and so forth. The middle 20% are better bets than the bottom 20 or 40%. The top 20% have the best chance of bringing a win. Forget the 1-2-3-4-5 labels: we need better pitching. Call them whatever you wish, but just say we need better than what we have.
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So, basically, quite a few posters seem okay with running back the same rotation, but subbing Gio for Pivetta and hoping Fitts or Priester plus the returning Criswell is enough depth when 1-3 of our starters get hurt. Houck is a #2 or really good #3. Gio, Bello and Crawford are all decent #5s, with maybe #3-4 upside. Fitts, Priester and Criswell fight for the #5-6-7 slots. It seems some think adding a #2-3 like Nick Martinez or Flaherty is about the best we can hope for, and maybe JH will force that to be, but we don't have to be okay with running back the same rotation.
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We could use a RHB catcher with plus defensive skills and some pop, but on just a 1 year deal. I'm not sure who fits that bill: maybe Jansen or d'Arnaud. Maybe on a 2 year deal or a 2nd year option with a hefty buyout?
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