moonslav59

I do not want to pay JD $200M, even if it was for 10 years, but if we miss out on JD or Stanton, I just know, in my heart of hearts, we'll end up with Hosmer. Please, NO!

Make 'em take Castillo and that would settle the money issue, although it would not help on the luxury tax. Taking HRam would be better, but Miami will not want him.

Certainly worrisome.

Yup.

He may get $150/6, but I'm guessing $140/6 or $160/7.

So, at best he's 22nd out of 30 on D. If that's "average" then up is down and black is white.

Doesn't mean he'll get it.

His best defensive season, by far, was 2015. Any talk of improvement afterwards is clownish babbling. His only minor improvement was from 2016 to 2017. I tried to help you save face, by mentioning that, but you made it worse by doubling down on nonsense. Typical.

The reason "the kid" was not brought up earlier, despite all the clamoring, was because of his poor defense. It's not a small sample size. "The kid" has been playing in professional ball for 4 years and close to 500 games. Sure, he can improve, but right now, he's close to the worst defensive 3Bman in MLB.

Scott Bora$$ is seeking $200M for JD Martinez. (Maybe 7-8 years?)

MLBTR reports... The Red Sox have announced that Dana LeVangie will become the team’s new pitching coach. Also joining the staff is Ramon Vazquez.

Shocking. Did anyone know he even had cancer?

If Bogey improved from 2016 to 2017 on defense it was by the slimmest of margins. Moose is a very significant upgrade on defense over Devers. Worst to average is huge.

If we get JD, I think we trade JBJ- perhaps (with others) for Abreu or a SP'er.

Cause you've seen all these guys play 150 games this year, right? Only 2 SSs have a worse than -15 DRS since 2015, and Bogey is at -21 (dead last out of 33. Only 7 have a DRS worse than -9. That means Bogey has 3 times the negative DRS than all but 6 of the remaining 32 SSs in MLB! To call that average is shocking. His UZR/150 shows him at 19 out 33. I guess you could call that slightly below average or stretch it to average, but with the DRS data, I can't see it. My personal observations support the numbers. His range is not that good (23rd out of 33). He does okay on balls hit right to him. What bothers me most, is that he's gotten worse since 2015 (his best year). That year he was +1.0 UZR/150 and just -1 DRS. I'm willing to concede, he was average in 2015.

The other issue is that we may have Holt at 2B as well as Devers at 3B. Add to that JD at 1B or HRam coming off surgery, or someone like Duda... yuck! I'm okay with Devers at 3B, if we put together a much better line-up on offense. I'm not drooling over Moose either. He has a poor OBP and is an average fielder. I just like him more than Hosmer and Morrison on offense, and I think the improved defense at 3B tips the balance in his favor. I'd be happy with Santana, JD or Stanton.

I disagree, but I'm not vehement about it. There is a sliver of hope we will compete for a playoff slot.

lol

Red Sox: 1. Hosmer (7/150) wtf??? I will literally puke, if we sign Hosmer.

Not doubting your numbers, but where did you get the info?

Maybe we'll finally see how a manager can "make a difference" in a positive way.

Name 15 starting short stops that are worse fielders than Bogey. Now, if you want to claim the 11-20th best SSs are "average", you might have an argument by claiming Bogey is number 20, but to me, even that is a stretch, wishful thinking or homerism. Personally, I'd rank him around 23rd to 27th, based on the numbers. None of us have watched every SS play by every MLB SS. Devers still has upside. I get that. He's very young and has raw talent. I do think he can develop into a plus defensive 3Bman. My problem is concerning the time frame. We're in a 2-3 year window of having a superior chance at winning a ring. It's not an ideal time for "on-the-job-training." That's my biggest concern- not whether someday he may or may not become a plus defender or even average. I'm 100% positive Moose would be significantly better on defense than Devers in 2018 and most probably 2019 as well. That may not be reason enough to sign Moose over a 1Bman, but it is certainly something that should be factored in when making that choice.

2014: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2014-mlb-cbssportscom-expert-predictions/ 1 out of 4 had us at 1st place (2 of 4 in second) Bleacher Report had us winning the wild card. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2008842-bleacher-reports-full-2014-mlb-season-preview-and-predictions

Yes, I mentioned no Reed or Davis. I think we could have afforded EE and Nunez. (Like I said, this was in hindsight.)

I wanted to trade Holt long ago. I think his piss poor offense this year was injury related, but I'd still rather have Hernandez & Lin over Holt in the infield. (Holt's best position is 2B, so maybe we hold onto him for two months, and he builds some trade value while playing at 2B and 4th OF'er for the first 2 months.