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Not really for a 28 year stud.

, Year one, yes, once you reset, but the tax on Stanton's $25M luxury cost will be less over the length of the deal. My point was that if the Yanks can get Stanton and reset, I think they'll kick the tires.

A little bit deceiving. He was at 2.8 year 4, so the 4.0 average WAR for the first 4 years was front-loaded. 3 out of 8 years with a WAR over 2.9 is probably not what the Yankee FO hoped for. (He had 4 straight years over 3.5 before signing with the Yanks and only 2 out of 8 seasons over 3.4 with the Yanks.) I wouldn't call the signing a bust, but I am glad the Sox didn't win that bidding war.

Yes to Plan A JD Martinez and Plan B Santana. No to Kinsler or W Flores. Okay with Tyler Chatwood.

Nobody is giving them top talent AND paying for the whole contract. They are not getting Beni or Devers, even if they pay part of the deal.

Committing to 5 years for 1Bman of Hosmer's quality is asking for worse than HRam & Pablo. 1B should be a position of greater power and offense than Hosmer brings to the table.

ERod or Groome and take away Castillo, and Miami says yes.

That's almost as funny as my proposal!

Actually, he was against us using internal solutions at 2B while Pedey is out. However, he failed to say what he was for.

I thought the next thing he was going to say was he was against us breathing.

Yes, because he's a lefty hitter.

With Betts, Beni, JBJ and Devers all LH'd batters, and HRam's contract a year or two away from ending, should be value Stanton, JD Martinez and switch hitter Santana much more than normal? (Hosmer & Moustakas bat LH'd.)

Singing to the choir... (MLBTR) Why the Red Sox shouldn’t sign Eric Hosmer. Eric Hosmer is a good player that would make the Red Sox better. He’s an old-fashioned first baseman who hits the ball to all fields for a good average, hits doubles more than homers and fields the position reasonably well, depending on which defensive metric you trust most. But he’s an imperfect fit for this Red Sox lineup and organization, and as he is coming off a career season is liable to make more than he’s worth this winter, especially considering the draft-pick compensation tied to him with the qualifying offer. Boston’s biggest need in the lineup isn’t just for a power hitter; it’s for a right-handed power hitter. Hosmer fits neither of those designations. If we sketch out not just the 2018 Red Sox batting order but into 2019 and 2020 as well, Boston’s middle of the order is likely to involve Mookie Betts, Rafael Devers and Andrew Benintendi. That’s two lefties and one righty, so in an ideal world, you’re getting another righty to complement that group. Also, Fenway Park is easier for a righty to exploit for power. Hosmer’s 25 home runs this past season represent a career high. He’s likely to hit for less power than guys like Betts, Devers and Benintendi to begin with. He’s also the type of player whose power seems most tied to the composition of the baseball. Before baseball’s home run boom started at the 2015 All-Star break, Hosmer had never even hit 20 homers in a season; he had homered once every 40.9 plate appearances. Since then, he’s homered once every 25.4 plate appearances. If the ball is altered back to where it was a few years ago, his power is likely to regress. It’s tempting to attribute Hosmer’s low power numbers to Kauffman Stadium and suggest that he’d be due for more homers with 81 games at Fenway Park. However, he’s barely hit more homers on the road than at home in his career (67 to 60) and his slugging percentage has been higher in Kansas City despite a better batting average on the road. And Fenway isn’t exactly a bandbox to straightaway right and right-center. Signing Hosmer would lock the Red Sox into him at first base for the foreseeable future, closing off one of the simplest avenues to adding a legitimate power bat. It would also close off a possible move across the diamond for Devers, should Boston ever need to consider one. And it would limit the paths to the majors for Sam Travis and especially Michael Chavis. The presence of those prospects shouldn’t deter the Red Sox from making a big move, as it seemed to last year with Edwin Encarnacion. But it should be a factor in the decision-making. In general, Hosmer has some of the same warning signs to me that Pablo Sandoval had. He’s a nice player whose reputation exceeds his actual production because he’s been good on the postseason stage. He’s not the type of player who should hit in the middle of a good Boston order, nor one who should be given a long-term deal averaging close to $25 million per season.

Castillo, Hembree, Chavis, Ockimey & Swihart for Stanton

Some interesting ideas. If GS does not want to play in STL, maybe the Sox and Giants are the front runners.

You don't lose draft picks when signing QO free agents. You lose pool money and your pick might go down 10 picks depending on your spending situation. We'd go from maybe pick number 25 to 35. The pool money hurts, as this is where we've done well recently.

Yes, I meant Beni staying in LF. I do not think we spend some of the limited money we have on 2B, when Pedey might be back in 2 months, and we have Hernandez/Holt/Lin/Marrero to carry us for 2 months. If none work out, we'll seek the next Nunez-type mid season replacement. We need power. I doubt we get it at 2B. I'm very sympathetic to the view of avoiding long term mega-deals, and Santana would be a very good choice, IMO. I'm not sure what Moose will get, but if we cna get him for 4 years (or even 5), he might be a better choice than JD at 6-7 years at his age. Stanton is young, however, and his contract is long, but it only runs to age 37. JD's deal will be almost entirely beyond prime years. (BTW, signinng Santana keeps Devers at 3B. Maybe you misspoke in your last sentence.)

$25M a year is much less than Harper will get on the open market. I get the idea of going under the limit is a priority, and it will be easier to do so this year than next. I'll ask you this, is there any way that you can get Stanton and stay under the limit? 1) The Marlins might pay part of his salary, if they can get a better return (which no team can do better than the Yanks) $22M Ellsbury $13M headley $13M Gardner $12.5M Robertson $8.5M S Castro I'm thinking the Yanks are at least considering "finding a way" to do both: get Stanton and reset the tax. 2) Can you cut salary elsewhere? (Trade and eat part of vet contracts you hold now.)

In theory, yes, but... 1) Some think it will not take many "chips" to get him, if the team takes on all the contract. 2) Signing JD will affect the international pool money and will lower our top draft pick. 3) Stanton is younger and has better numbers over a longer sample size than JD. 4) There is a less chance of Stanton bombing out than JD, IMO. That being said, I'm fine with either one. Both have their downsides. Both have tremendous upsides. My third choice is Santana.

Although outgoing Royal Eric Hosmer is a clear bet to take home the largest contract among first basemen this winter, Travis Sawchik of Fangraphs suspects that career Guardians first baseman Carlos Santana will outperform Hosmer for at least the next three years. While Hosmer is younger than Santana and had a better 2017 season by fWAR, Sawchik notes that Santana’s primary skill (his batting eye) is a better bet to age well than any other skill that either player brings to the table. Hosmer has also posted negative fWAR totals in two of his major league seasons; something Santana has never done. Worth mentioning: Santana was worth a total of 21.2 fWAR from 2011-2017, while Hosmer was worth a mere 9.9.

Can I say it now, or would I be jinxing things? We just might be getting.... Giancarlo Freakin' Stanton!

This could become something pretty amazing: 2016: Price 2017: Sale 2018: Stanton

MLBTR reports... Red Sox catcher prospect Daniel Flores passed away Wednesday over complications stemming from cancer treatment, but he was only diagnosed with the disease (testicular cancer) in late October, family friend Jose Salas Jr. told Alex Speier of the Boston Globe. “When we saw it was bad, we did CT scans, X-rays, and stuff, and it was way too late, it was already too late,” said Salas, who was also Flores’ trainer. “He was so strong that he wouldn’t feel pain. . . . There were no indications, nothing suspicious, no negligence, there was nothing. . . . I don’t know what to tell you.” Flores was playing in the Dominican Republic instructional league shortly before he received his diagnosis, which came after he complained of back pain, and teammate and pitching prospect Alex Scherff informed Speier that “you literally couldn’t have been able to see that he was in that condition at all. He completely dominates the game. He’s the best catcher I’ve ever seen, no doubt in my mind at all.” Speier’s piece, which further profiles Flores and includes more quotes from Salas and Scherff, is certainly worth checking out in full.

If Stanton really is "fed up with losing," the Sox look like the best team of the 4 in the hunt for Stanton. I'm still not buying the idea that these are the only 4 serious contenders for his services, but this is really encouraging. Last year: Sale. This year: Stanton. If only Price would bounce back to form.

I can't believe the Yanks and Dodgers aren't kicking the tries or waiting to swoop in at the last minute and steal the spotlight. I know both teams have expressed an interest in lowering payroll, but Stanton is "the man."