moonslav59
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True, but there are a few pitchers with stark differentials, especially with Swihart and his small sample sizes. Sale 2.42 w Leon (319) 3.40 w Vaz (53 IP) O IP with Swihart (very telling.) (3.02 with Flowers in 552 IP/ 2.51 w AJP in 226/ 3.53 w Avila in 112) Price 2.83 w Leon (194 IP) 4.32 w Vaz (263) 5.72 w Swihart (11) (2.85 w Molina 473/3.06 w Jaso 191) Porcello 4.14 w Leon in 483 4.15 w Vaz in 134 4.59 w Swihart in 118 (4.17 w Avila in 578/ 4.32 w Laird in 296) ERod is about even 4.00 w Leon in 99 4.08 w Swihart in 71 4.24 w Vaz in 276 Eovalid's sample sizes are small, but he did better with Vaz. If you look at just Sale and Price, one could argue keeping Leon is the right choice, and trading Vaz could work, if the new guy (like Cervelli) can work with Porcello, Eovaldi and ERod. Since ERod doesn't seem to be affected by who catches him, and Eovaldi is kind of new anyways, and Porcello might be gone after next year, maybe trading Vaz and getting a better hitting catcher makes more sense than I first thought.
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I understand. He may also think Cervelli or someone esle is as good or better than Vaz or Leon in those areas I promote so much. He certainly knows more about opposing catchers than I do (and our own, too!)
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Exactly. Now, I'm not saying Leon and Vaz are the only catchers in MLb with these skills, but any new catcher would create a learning curve of an unknown amount of time, even ones known to be great in these areas.
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...or without affecting all the intangibles Leon & Vaz give our staff.
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Maybe something like the Lackey deal?
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It just seems like they could have done better. (I'm no expert on other teams' prospects or players.)
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One of those last two was in relief.
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He actually did better with Vaz, and Vaz caught him a lot in the playoffs, when he did the best he ever has done. REG Season: 0.55 ERA with Vaz (16.1 IP) 3.86 ERA with Leon (35 IP) 6.16 ERA w Wilson Ramos (38 IP) Game 3 vs NYY with Vaz 7 IP 5 H 1 ER 0BB Game 3 vs HOU w Vaz 6 IP 6H 2ER 2 BB Game 5 vs HOU w VAZ (in relief) 1.1 IP 0H 0ER 1BB Game 1 vs LAD w Leon in relief 1 IP 0H 0ER 0BB Game 2 vs LAD w Vaz in relief 1 IP 0H 0ER 0BB Game 3 vs LAD w Leon in relief of 18 inning game 6IP 1 ER 3H 1BB ( 1 unearned run) He did very well with both catchers in the playoffs, but he pitched more with Vaz (15.1 IP 3 ER with Vaz and 7 IP 1 ER with Leon).
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I share your deep concerns, and it was actually a much smaller sample size with him playing "out of his mind." He wasn't bad, by any means, before the playoffs, but out of 12 games with us, he had 5 so-so to bad outings 2.2 IP 10H 4 ER 2 BB (4 unearned runs) 5.1 IP 10H 4 ER 1 BB 4.0 IP 8H 5 ER 0 BB 2.0 IP 3H 3 ER 0BB 3.2 IP 3H 2 ER 2 BB The hope is, he gets consistent and durable- something he's never been. That's a big risk, but it feels good having him back for 2019.
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I'm not for trading Mookie. I'd give him 12 years. However, trading him would not be about getting equal value. It would be about getting something before he walks as a free agent (assuming we plan to re-set the tax).
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MLBTR... Eovaldi hasn’t even yet turned 29 and sustained an average heater of over 97 mph last year. While he was a bit homer-prone during his time to open the season with the Rays, which hurt his outcomes even as he otherwise showed compelling stuff, the seven-year MLB vet was excellent down the stretch in 2018. He ultimately tossed 54 regular season frames of 3.33 ERA ball with 8.0 K/9 and 2.0 BB/9 for the Sox. Over the course of the full campaign, Eovaldi’s swinging-strike rate surged to a career-high 10.7% while he turned in a sturdy 45.6% groundball rate that sat just under his personal mean. No doubt that late run boosted Eovaldi’s stock, but it was his postseason showing that cemented his status as a top free agent arm. Eovaldi ended up turning in 22 1/3 frames over the team’s three series. He was excellent every time he took the ball, whether as a starter, late-inning reliever, or long man. Eovaldi ended up permitting just four earned runs on 15 hits and three walks while racking up 16 strikeouts.
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Good points. I think we will try our hardest to keep him starting, but if Wright is healthy and looking good, it may be an interesting decision to make. I can't see Wright as a closer, but he might be a good long man or set-up man. (We'd still need a closer.)
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Red Sox To Re-Sign Nathan Eovaldi By Jeff Todd | December 6, 2018 at 8:53am CDT (MLBTR) The Red Sox have struck a deal to bring back righty Nathan Eovaldi, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Terms of the agreement, which is pending a physical, have yet to be reported. Eovaldi is a client of ACES.
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It might be a fall back option, if he fails to land his first choices.
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If they do decide to upgrade at catcher, I just don't see us paying that money for Cervelli, even if you minus Vaz's contract. I'm not sure Pitt wants to pay any of his salary. He does have a good rep as being sharp with pitchers, and his past staffs have liked working with him. To me, that is essential in any move we make for a new catcher. Your point is valid. If we look to upgrade somewhere else, knowing we are downgrading our pen or rotation, catcher offense jumps out at us. The other position is 2B, but I see that as a wait and see position with Pedey, Holt and Nunez all looking to do well enough to make that slot a push or better. I just can't see us throwing more money at 2B. Pedey, Nunez and Holt rate to make about $24M between the 3 of them. We may just try to go more quantity over quality with our staff acquisitions and keep the contracts shorter and more conducive to a re-set of the tax down the road.
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He might be counting on a full season from Pearce, Devers and Brasier as being one of the big steps up, but that's assuming no injury counters those gains in playing time. He could take a flyer on one of the lesser SP'ers looking for a short-term deal to re-set their market value and 2 solid set up guys instead of an expensive closer. Maybe something like... A Sanchez $12M x 2 or Matt Harvey at $11M x 2 Ottavino $11M x 2 C Allen $8M x 2 This is basically the same cost, but for less years as Eovaldi $17M x 4 Z Britton $12M x 3 or 4
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Some of DD's past gigs involved a serious "win now" strategy that may not be the case here, unless Henry is thinking of selling once this window closes. I doubt Henry is thinking of selling, so I think the plan is for as short a rebuild period as possible with DD staying through it. If we reset after 2020 and then spend big in 2022, we could see the window open back up after one down year (2021). The biggest problem with this plan is that re-setting after 2020, pretty much means saying good bye to Mookie, something some here seem to think is best for the long term success of this team, anyways. If we planned now by not signing anyone beyond 2020, we could possibly keep Betts and lose others and still shoot for a competitive team in 2022.
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They may just settle on Happ or Morton and a big pen arm.
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I'm not really against this move, but it's not a choice between Eovaldi and nothing. We could sign or trade for players who are cheaper or shorter term, and still be highly favored in 2019 AND better positioned in 2020 and 2021 to keep other stars.
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I don't think anyone believes we will trade Betts. There might be just 1 or 2 that think he should be traded. I mentioned if we wanted to re-set after 2019, it might make some sense, but I have always felt the window is open until after 2020, and that winter will be our re-set.
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I know it's just one year, but still....This is the best AZ could do?
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MLBTR reports on Eovaldi... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/12/negotiations-between-red-sox-nathan-eovaldi-reportedly-intensifying.html
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Well, half the contract will be from ages 28-32. That's not really past prime. Ages 33-35 are many time very good to decent years, so that's 8 out of 10. Only 2 years, at ages 36-37 might be scary, but they could be very good, too.
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My sentiments exactly.
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Wow! Looking like an exciting off season, so far. I'm hoping to see the Sox name come up at some point.
