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There is still plenty of time. There could be several reasons why it hasn't happened. 1) A team or two might be waiting for something else to happen first before deciding to trade for JBJ. 2) Maybe Bloom has an offer or two but is trying to get more. 3) Maybe Bloom will pay some of JBJ's contract to get a player or prospect worth more than the difference. 4) Maybe we trade Betts and keep JBJ. Maybe he messed up.

I could see us dealing him for a RP'er that may make $3-5M, but who is not overpaid.

If we deal Betts, then yes, we can keep JBJ, but with just 1 year of team control left and a 2020 without Betts, I don't see why we should keep him, unless we extend him to more than 1 year at less than $11M a year. Ilove JBJ, and would love to keep him, but with budget issues, I think we can add a cheaper great defensive CF'er and use the savings to plug holes in our staff, 1B, 2B, C and OF dept slots.

If we can't deal him, we would have DFA'd him. I have to think Bloom has someone(s) interested. The trade value site has JBJ worth +$2, so he's not a negative value according to them.

Here's a trade idea to save on the Lux budget: Eovaldi $51M/3 ($17M x 3 LUX) JBJ $11.2M last arb ($11.2M) Chavis pre-arb Decker minors OF Total $62.2M ($28.2M Lux 2020, $17M '21 & '22) for Herrera $20.2M/2 ($6.1M x 2 LUX) Marchan (C minors) Maton (SS minors) Morales RHP minors) Total: $20.2M/2 ($6.1M x 2 LUX) Money saved: $42M LUX TAX savings $22.1M 2020 $10.9M 2021 $17.0M 2022

Here's another one: Price $96M/3 ($31M x 3 LUX) JBJ ($11.3M arb) Walden (pre-arb) Total: $107M (LUX: $42.3M year 1, $31M yrs 2 and 3) for McCutchen $40M/2 (LUX $16.7M x 2) Robertson $11.5M/1 ($11.5M) Herrera $20.2M/2 ($6.1M x 2) Marchan (minors C) Britto (minors 2B) Total: $72M (LUX: 34.3M year 1, $22.8M year 2, $0 year 3) On the Lux Tax we save $8M in 2020, $8.2M in '21 and $31M year 3 We add a solid RP'er for 1 year. We add 2 OF'ers to replace JBJ, and possibly set ourselves up for a Betts trade. We add some minor league depth at catcher and 2B.

Merry Christmas!

1 year left at $10-11.5M (last arb) is not worth much to the Sox as it might be to a top contender without luxury tax issues. I'm thinking he gets traded for a low cost but decent RP'er.

This trade was accepted on Baseball Tradevalues: Price, Chavis & Decker for Cueto, Belt, Dubon (pre-arb), Yaz (pre-arb), Gott (pre-arb) The money: Price: $96M/3 JBJ: $11.3M/1 (arb est.) $107M (4 yrs combined) - Lux Tax $42.3M Cueto: $42M/2 ($21.7M x 2 LUX) Belt: $34.2M/2 ($14.6M x 2 LUX) $76.2M (4 yrs combined)- Lux Tax: $35.3M We save $31M and $7M per year on the Lux tax for 2 years, then $31M year 3. I'm not expecting anything from Cueto, but he balances some of Price's money owed. Yaz in Boston might be a nice fit. Belt and Dubon would start at 1B and 2B for 2 yrs (Belt) & 3+ yrs (Dubon). Gott might help the pen.

Here's a look at what the trade simulator site has for player values, salary owed and I added Lux Tax numbers: Trade Values Value -Player -Total Salary Owed/Lux Tax x Yrs Sox -60.0 Price $96M -29.5 Eovaldi $51M -11.0 Sale $123.9M +2.0 Bradley ~$11M +5.6 Walden ~$3.8M +6.0 JD Martinez $23.7 (Opt out?) +12.1 Duran +17.7 Chavis ~$13.7M +18.8 Dalbec +24.6 Barnez ~$24.6M +35.9 Beni ~$33.9M -102.0 Hosmer $102M/ $18M x6 -76.0 Cano $81M $24M x 4 (Unlikely) -60.3 Myers $68.5M/ $13.8M x 3 -53.2 Heywood $86M/ $23M x 4 -40.9 Upton $72M/ $21.2M x 3 -40.4 Cueto $48.7/ $21.7M x 2 -39.3 Pollock $56.0/ $12M x 3 -34.2 Posey $66.4/ $18.6M x 2 -33.4 Longoria $49.5/ $11.6M x 3 -31.1 Carpenter $55.5/ $19.5M x 2 -28.4 Herera $41.7/ $6.1M x 2 -26.7 Odor $37.0/ $8.3 x 3 -25.2 Fowler $33.0/ $16.5M x 2 -25.0 Desmond $25.0/ $14M x 2 -22.7 Zimmerman $25.0/ $22M/1 (with Boyd?) -18.3 Belt $34.4M/ $14.6M x 2 -18.0 McCutchen $40.0M/ $16.7M x 2 -17.5 Cobb $29.0M/ $14.3M x 2 -15.9 Familia $20.0M/ $10M x 2 -14.9 Cain $51.0M/ $16M x 3 -14.7 Duffy $30.5M/ $13M x 2 -14.0 Carrasco $37.2M/ $11.8M x 3 -13.6 Kiermaier $36.0M/ $8.9M x 3 -13.0 Robertson $13.0M/ $11.5M x 1 -12.7 J Kelly $21.7M/ $8.3 x2 -11.5 McGee $11.5M/9.0M x 1 -11.0 Shaw $11.0M/ $9M x 1 -9.0 Chatwood $13M/ $12.7M x 1 -8.7 Herrera (P) $9M/ $9M x 1 -8.6 Kennedy $16.5M/ $14M x 1 -8.4 Cespedes$11.0M/ $6M x 1 -8.3 Lowrie $12.0M/ $10M x 1 -7.2 Cecil $7.2M/ $7.6M x 1 -6.9 Melancon $14M/ $15.5M x 1 -6.5 Reddick $13.0M/ $13M x 1 -0.1 Villar $10.4M/ $9.8M

If we saved enough money by trading JBJ, too, we could sign a FA or two. I still think some sort of Price and ____ for Pollock and Maeda might work best.

This trade was accepted on the simulator site: Price (+$9M), Chavis, Walden, Duran for Upton (owed $72M), Sandoval & 4 minor leaguers: Adams (OF), Jones (2B) Soriano (P) & Ktuger © (Upton's tax hit is $24M, so if we include $9M with Price, we'd save about $7M a year on the tax budget. More likely, we don't include the $9M and don't get Adams -worth 8.4).

I think the point is, he came out of no where to win the title.

I agree, and they should ask for a much higher minimum salary and 5 years of control- but with arbs starting 1 year earlier with a modest lux tax raise. The draft pick penalty may stay.

Or, take back unwanted salary as a partial balance. Price for Myers Price for Odor Price for Pollock (Then, trade JBJ) Price for Herrera Price for _____?

I'd do it. I doubt Philly would without some more money from us. The simulator accepted this: Price, JBJ & Decker for McCutchen, Robertson, Herrera & Marchan © The money? Philly gets Price $32M x 3 and JBJ ~$11M (last arb) BOS gets McCutchen $40M/2, Robertson $11.5M/1, Herrera $20M/2 Lux tax: McCutchen $16.7M x 2 + opt, Robertson $11.5M/1, Herrera $6.1M x 2+ opt It's more of a budget boost to BOS after 2020.

Just trade Price for Myers or Odor and let's move on.

All the sponsorship and endorsement deals are adding to revenues. Rising prices or tickets and concessions can outweigh the loss in attendance,too. NESN might be seeing less viewers but might be able to charge more for ads.

Yes, I just copied MLBTR's (unupdated) page.

Top Remaining Free Agents (MLBTR's List): Player (est contract) 5. Donaldson (75/3) 6. Bumgarner (72/4) 8. Castellano (58/4) 9. Ryu (54/3) 11. Ozuna (45/3) 22. W Harris 18/2 24. W Miley 16/2 25. C Dickerson 15/2 28. D Hudson 12/2 29. Av Garcia 12/2 33. Chirinos 10/2 34. J Castro 10/2 35. C Stammen 10/2 36. S Cishek 10/2 37. Puig 8/1 38. Encarnacion 8/1 39. A Wood 8/1 41. Holt 8/2 43. Betances 7/1 44. Calhoun 6/1 45. Akiyama 6/2 46. R Hill 6/1 48. Nova 6/1 49. P Strop 50. D Smyly 3/1 FAs signed (estimate>actual) Cole 256/8>324/9 Rendon 235/7>245/7 Strasburg 180/6>245/7 Wheeler 100/5>118/5 Y Grandal 68/4>73/4 Odorizzi 51/3> 17.8/1 QO accepted Gregorius 44/3>14/1 Will Smith 42/4>40/3 Keuchel 39/3>55.5/3 C Hamels 30/2> 18/1 Abreu 28/2> 17.8/1 accepted QO Pineda 22/2>20/2 Moustakas 20/2>64/4 KGibson 18/2>30/3 TRoark 18/2>24/2 Teheran 18/2> Pomeranz 16/2>34/4 D'Arnaud 14/2>16/2 C Martin 14/2>14/2 Kendrick 12/2>6.25/1 Porcello 11/1>10/1 Gradner 10/1>12.5/1 Wainwright 8/1>5/1 Lindblom 8/2>9.1/3 Wacha 6/1>3/1

There are more ways to make money. You can make more money, even with lower attendance and viewership, as long as the money you make per fan outweighs the amount of fans lost each year.

I'm all for robo umps. I'm all for paying minor league players and ML scrubs much more and possibly mega stars less. I'm hopeful the next contract does that.

We'd have no rings without our farm. The Dodgers won't trade Lux for Lindor or Betts, but yeah, farms don't help teams win. LOL!

You're not joking. You ARE a joke. (I honestly thought you were, or maybe just a troll.) MLB will not go broke paying minor leaguerers triple what they make now. I'm done. Ignoring you is no threat. It's for me not you.

You have got to be joking. If not, it's ignore time.