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  1. My position on the reasoning goes like this: the year we signed HRam & Pablo, we needed offense and pitching. Scherzer was the only clear ace available that year, so they decided to wait on pitching until the next season, when 3-4 aces were going to be on the open market. I disagreed with signing Pablo. I thought signing HRam to play 3B would have been good. We ended up getting Price, who maybe had better numbers than Scherzer had at the time of their signings. I try to avoid the whole arguments about who in management pulled the strings.
  2. Would you agree to him being one of the worst 3 out of all the full time short stops of that decade? That is clearly defensible. I called him the worst, because not only was he horrible, he played 2-3,000 more innings that the other bad ones of that decade, so his weak D was magnified to the point of making him the worst. BTW, his UZR was as bad as the next two worst ones combined. How is that not a "defense" or a position?
  3. So, no HOF'er can ever be a bad fielder. Great logic. Jeter sucked on D for over a decade.
  4. Many do both. Those are the ones I like. If it comes down to a guy who makes 100 more plays than the other (on exactly the same amount and difficulty plays) but makes 20 more errors, I'll take the guy with 20 more errors.
  5. Jeter was certainly a big plus player overall. His offense outweighed his defense and then some. He was a big plus in the clubhouse as well. My diss on his D was in no way meant to imply he was an overall bad player. (I do think he should have moved to 3B for ARod- like Nomar was going to do- not that ARod was a great defensive SS.)
  6. The guy made one good play his whole life, and we had to watch it replayed 17 million times. I guess some people think he made that play more than once.
  7. They once gave the GG to a guy who DH'd the whole year. Tell me the award means anything, except that it is a popularity contest.
  8. I've had plenty of people, including on this site and the old one who agree with me, or agree he was bad but maybe not "the worst."
  9. 2004-2014 MLB SS Defense Top 29 Qualified UZR 27. Y Betancourt -20.7 28. H Ramirez -53.6 29. Derek Jeter -62.4 Worst 3 by UZR/150 -8.4 Betancourt -8.3 HRam -6.9 Jeter Now look at DRS, and nobody is even close. He nearlt doubled the next worst guy, HRam): -139 Jeter -73 HRam -66 Betancourt (HRam + Betancourt= -139!) Yup--worst in my lifetime! Not even close. Not even open for discussion, unless you want to count guys that didn't play much. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/offseason-outlook-boston-red-sox-10.html
  10. Like GG awards mean anything. Jeter was the worst full time defensive SS I have ever seen. No doubt. Period. Exclamation point! (Note: He was juts plain bad early in his career. He was horrible the rest.)
  11. Had he just signed Scherzer instead of HRam & Pablo.... (We wouldn't have Price, too.)
  12. The funnies move ever made was to move ARod to 3B so the worst defensive SS in my lifetime could stay at SS.
  13. Minnesota!!!!!!!!
  14. I took your post to mean this year, but still, I'd take your bet. There are some great defensive 3Bmen all around the league. If Devers can ever get to a +5 UZR/150, I'd be pleased and surprised. (I still think Dalbec will end up with a better career UZR/150 than Devers at 3B.)
  15. I almost spit up my cornflakes on this one. You crack me up.
  16. Actually, Bogey played 3B for the Sox before his first full season, after just playing 10 games in AAA there. Many felt he'd eventually end up at 3B due to his poor projections at SS defense. He has worked his way to respectability on defense at SS (barely).
  17. It didn't matter. They've been platooned their whole lives.
  18. One could argue it cuts the risk in half.
  19. I agree, and I don't pretend to know more about players than the coaches and managers know. I'm just saying, from my distant point of view, Devers seems to not be bothered by much.
  20. You could ask him.
  21. I understand my example is "hindsight," but I am just wondering what you think he'd need to do to earn it. This is not about what we think he will do. I'm wondering, if our disagreement is more about what we think $300M is in terms of production or more about not thinking he'll put up similar numbers as this one example. BTW, the numbers I listed seems about like what I'd expect him to put up. My thinking is this, if he's making $32M a year, he's probably worth $45M for 4 years, so we're up $$52M after year 4. Maybe he earns $32M for 3 years, so we're still up $52M after 7 years. Maybe his last 3 years, he's worth $25, $20 and $15. That's minus $32M. Overall, we're still plus $20M in terms of value. Of course, one year being out with an injury flips it from plus to minus, unless it's year 9 or 10.
  22. Nothing seems to bother Devers.
  23. What would Betts have to do, in your opinion, to earn $320M/10? Would this be enough? No seasons under 145 games. .900 to 1.100 OPS for 2 seasons .850-.950 OPS for 4 more seasons .800-.900 OPS for 2 more seasons .750-.850 OPS for last 2 seasons. (No more than half his seasons on the low ends of these ranges)
  24. Yes, I mistyped. Thanks.
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