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  1. moonslav59
    He sleeps in the middle.
  2. moonslav59
    $40M almost makes it a no-brainer. In theory, one could add that $40M to our best FAQ offer to Betts next winter. If we can trade Betts for something decent and dump Price (and some cash) for Myers, we'll be sitting pretty going into next off season.
  3. moonslav59
    Even Gonsolin or cartaya, alone, is rated higher than a comp pick. (BTW, we don't know if it will be a 4th rounder. It depends on the lux tax final placement.)
  4. moonslav59
    I'd be okay with Gonsolin and Ruiz or even Cartaya, which is light according to the simulator.
  5. moonslav59
    I think Sale has the best chance at bouncing back. His K rate was his best last year, and I think they babied him after we were out of it. Eovaldi ended the season pitching. Price is most iffy, to me.
  6. moonslav59
    Don't worry, we've been told, the farm will be rebuilt again.
  7. moonslav59
    No, and maybe I'll kick myself for ever wanting such a long deal, but maybe if we front end structure it, we could deal him towards the end, if it's not working out. I'm thinking Betts at 39-40 might be a steal at "just" $20M a decade from now.
  8. moonslav59
    I totally understand this position, but to me, Mookie is probably worth $300+M/6 (not on the open market as a FA but in reality), so giving him $120M for the last 6 years is not bad.
  9. moonslav59
    I'd rather have Gonsolin than Downs. As for the prospect, I'd like Cartaya. I'd be fine with the deal as presented here. Maybe we can dump Price in another deal.
  10. moonslav59
    Plus, the game is so damn fun!
  11. moonslav59
    I understand his point, and it is valid. So is the position that him opting out before the expected decline begins is valid. Hoping to trade him could work, but who knows?
  12. moonslav59
    Good points, but maybe we can trade for a decent pitcher with a big contract (but not too big to move us past the reset line).
  13. moonslav59
    To me, the drop off from Betts to Verdugo will be greater than the drop off from Price to whoever we can afford with the freed up salary space. Like I said, there's not much left to sign for 2020, but I suppose we could trade for someone else's lesser salary dump pitcher, still reset and be better off than by losing Betts. I guess I don't have as much faith in Price as many here seem to have, and while I realize he may have a 3-4+ WAR season, and we could look back with a big heart ache "what if?", but I'd not even stop at trading Betts & Price. I'd also trade 1 year guys like JBJ and Workman (the perfect sell high player). I'd consider 2 years guys as well, but not ERod. I'd try to extend him with the money saved by dumping Price and/or Eovaldi. I'd try to bring Betts back, but if we get outbid, we'd have a lot of budget space to let Bloom do his thing. We might not even be all that bad in 2020 without Betts, Price, Eovaldi, Workman and JBJ, depending on who we get back, but our 2021 and beyond outlook could and should look a lot better.
  14. moonslav59
    Yes, but that is a different point than the one we are talking about now, which was the debate before the season began. Some had the position that even if Price had a great year, we hoped he'd opt out. Others did not. Both positions have validity. 700 not only thinks one does not, he calls it foolish to hope for an opt out.
  15. moonslav59
    Ouch!
  16. moonslav59
    Sorry. My bad.
  17. moonslav59
    So, trading Betts for Verdugo is not "punting," but trading Price for a bag of balls is? I'm not sure I agree.
  18. moonslav59
    He is likely to help more than hurt in 2020, but his contract is killing us for 3 more years. If I wouldn't sign him for $32M x 3, then it makes sense to trade him for a bag of balls. His net value is negative. There isn't much on the market to sign and replace him with, but getting rid of that contract would improve our long term outlook by allowing us to make more of the types of moves you, Bloom and I like.
  19. moonslav59
    Yet, you want us to keep Price for his last 3 years. (Welcome back, Kimmi!)
  20. moonslav59
    I'm fine with trying to remain somewhat competitive in 2020 via Verdugo or some combination of Gonsolin, Stripling and a prospect like Ruiz, Cartaya or Gray, but I want us to look stronger in 2021 and beyond with a reset under our belts. I'm not totally writing off 2020, but we've spent 3-4 years in a row making moves geared towards "this year" at the expense of the "beyond this year." It's time to switch gears and start making moves that improve the extended future- perhaps at the expense of "this year." It's what we did in 2012, and we ended up winning in 2013, so all may not be lost, but we need to help our future out.
  21. moonslav59
    You keep acting like I don't get your point- like if I just understood what you mean, I'd have to agree. I totally understand your point, now as I did then, and it's a good one, but it's not the only factor in taking a position on whether it would be good for the Sox, if Price opted out or not, even had he had a great season before the opt out. Try to understand my point, for once. It is just as valid as yours, if not more so.
  22. moonslav59
    So, if he was a FA, you'd be okay with us signing him to $96M/3?
  23. moonslav59
    There is no reason to expect healthy seasons from Sale,Price and Eovaldi. Yes, we lost 1/5th of our rotation (Porcello), but much more than 1/5th of the IP from our top 5 SP'ers. 2019 IP as a SP'er (team; 806) 203 ERod 174 Porcello (22% of SP'er IP/ 25% of top 5 SP'er IP) 147 Sale 107 Price 54 Eovaldi (We really lost 1/4th of our rotation with Porcello leaving.) 2018 (871 total) 191 Porcello (22% of SP'er IP/ 27% of top 5 SP'er IP) 176 Price 158 Sale 123 ERod 50 Eovaldi Expecting healthy seasons from even 2 of our 3 questionable SP'ers is a stretch. Expecting repeat seasons from Workman, Taylor and Walden may be an even bigger stretch. We have no significant incoming support for 2 years in a row, and please don't count 2 weeks from Chavis in 2019 as a boost to our 2020 outlook.
  24. moonslav59
    I'll take the former, especially how they played in 2018. It's not even close, IMO.
  25. moonslav59
    That's some sick humor! Many felt our pen actually over performed their expectations in 2018 and 2019. We are mainly pinning our 2020 hopes on a return to form of Barnes, a rebound from Hembree and Brasier and continued career year-like seasons from Workman, Taylor & Walden. Or, maybe D Hern gains some control or someone like Houk pulls a Buttrey.
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