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Astros to Re-Sign Brantley -MLBTR
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I will be surprised and upset, if we don't spend between $20-30M by the deadline, especially if we don't add a decent to good SP'er.
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Agreed. They also had Chatham at 4.9 before dropping him to 2 point something and now 1.9. Here's my take on their "mistakes:" Over-valued: 18.4 Dalbec: I like Dalbec, but maybe 14 is more reasonable. 14 Duran: I'd say 10-11. 7.6 Yorke: maybe 3-4 6.0 Chavis: maybe 2-3 5.0 Lugo: maybe 2-3 4.3 Groome: maybe maybe 1.5-2.5 2.9 Brasier: maybe 1-2 Under-valued 8.9 D Hern: I'd put him near 11-12 2.3 Seabold: maybe 3-4.5 1.6 Bello: they moved him from 1.0. I'd put him over 2.5 1.2 Barnes: I know, just 1 year left, but still... (2.5+) Weird, how as a Sox fan, I see more over-valued than under.
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Nothing said seems shocking or surprising to me. We knew we were not going all in, this winter. We knew that long ago.
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I can't see the prices of pitchers like Odorizzi going lower, next winter, so why not make a move than makes us better in 2021, as well as 2022 and 2013. No long term risk. No $20M+ cost per year (maybe not even $14M x 3). Just do it, Bloom!
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I'd trade two, if we had 'em.
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One can argue Verdugo, Downs, Wong and whoever we get with the extra budget space may approach the value of Betts over the next 10 years, but if we don't spend the money every year, it will be much harder to say we made out okay on the deal. Either that, or Betts gets hurt or declines earlier than expected. Verdugo is looking like a very valuable piece. If you look at the BTV site for player value, based on years of team control, projected value and contract cost, the deal looks like this: -20.3 Betts -10.8 Price (+$30M we pay them) LA: +1.1 50.8 Verdugo 21.3 Downs 4.0 Wong -$30M to LA for Price BOS +26.1 (Note: I am not saying this is proof of anything.)
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Interesting to note, the BTV site dropped the value of Chavis, again, from 7.5 to 6.0. (I think even 6.0 is too high. Houck is 6.0, Beni & Ward are 5.3.
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I'm tired of waiting. I am certain we will spend, soon, but this is killing me!
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I'm happy with the deal we made. Unlike many, I'm glad we dumped half of Price's contract. I think $300M/10 was an underbid, and we knew it. Since COVID, it doesn't look as bad, but had we kept him, I don't think giving him what the Dodgers ended up giving him was insanely high. "Risky," yes, but so are any deals for the best of the best at 8 years or more.
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We should spend more than $23M from now to the deadline.
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We have done some major extensions.
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This winter and last or the two before this winter?
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I was always for extending Betts. One main argument for trading him was that we got Verdugo, a couple nice prospects and we'd have money to spend. If we don't spend it, the loss seems greater.
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We may fill one of these slots via trade, but this does look like the plan.
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The cliff is real. It was worth it. 2018 was the best Sox team, ever! Hopefully, the rebuild will not take too long.
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I was hoping we get a solid closer and set up man. It looks like we may not get either, unless by trade. We better get Odorizzi to lessen the pain of not boosting the pen by as much as we had hoped.
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Can we stay under the limit by signing Odorizzi, Richards, Colome, Pillar & Kike? (maybe by trading Beni for a cheap RP'er or OF'er?)
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Devinski to AZ TOR looking at Brantley. (You think they'd be looking for a SP'er.)
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Assuming we keep Beni or replace him with another OF'er plus maybe adding Pillar and Kiki, our 4-5 man bench might be: Plawecki Arroyo (Hernandez is starting 2Bman) Renfroe Chavis (if not traded- maybe Munoz is added back to 40 man, if Chavis is traded) 5th bench slot and only 12 pitchers: Wilson or Puello/Gettys would have to be added to the 40 man roster (no big issue) (We could also use Arauz as the 5th sub, making Kiki more usable in the OF, when not playing 2B.)
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Indeed. It appears most of the AL East is getting worse. If we do spend $20-30M more, we should gain on everyone, even if just slightly. A lot will depend on heath and rebounds, but we don't need everyone to stay healthy and/or rebound- just 2 or 3 out of the 6 to 8 in that category need to play well for us to gain significantly over every AL East team, except maybe the Jays. Just 20-25 total GS'd from Sale and ERod combined could be a major boost over 2020. It's not a big stretch to 2 from imagine Devers, JD and Beni to return to 2018 or 2019 form. One can even imagine Bogey or Verdugo going nutty great in 2021. It's possible Dalbec competes for ROY. DHern could finally lower his BB rate. Taylor could return to 2018-2019 form. Maybe Eovaldi starts 25 games. Lots of ifs and maybes, but almost every AL East team has as many as we do.
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So is the best we can hope for is Odorizzi, Colome, Kike and Pillar, then maybe trade Beni for a RP'er or lesser RP'er and CF'er/RF'er?
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I'd be okay with Tanaka or Odorizzi. I just don't see Tanaka wanting to play here. I guess you could say Paxton is as good as Odorizzi, so maybe he'd be okay. I'm hoping for Odorizzi, the guy I thought might be the best SP'er for the money, this winter. If we don't get Hand, and it looks like we won't, I'm not sure there is anybody left I'd view as a lock down closer.
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If we sign Hernandez as OF depth and nobody else, he'd be the 4th OF'er not Renfroe. If we trade Beni and add one OF'er plus Hernandez, Kike will be the 4th or 5th OF'er- not Renfroe. If we see a net gain of 2 OF'ers and still sign Kike, Renfroe may be the 4th OF'er and Kike the 5th, depending on how good the two we get. Ideally, Renfroe is a platoon LF'er. I'd rather not see him get much time in RF, but even there, it should only be as a platoon.
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How are the Rays and Yanks better, as of right now? At worse, we gained slightly on both, so far, even if by getting worse by less. To me, they have gotten worse by more than us replacing JBJ with Renfroe. The Yanks replaced Tanaka, Paxton & Happ with a guy coming off a major injury- Kluber. The Rays lost Snell. We will be spending over $20-25M, soon. They are both about done spending. The Jays improved but lack a solid rotation, even if they all do as well as can be expected.
