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Romy should have the inside edge, especially since he hit RHPs about as well as DHam does. Maybe Romy-DHam. Maybe K Campbell. Maybe Rafaela to clear the OF logjam. I still think Brez is working the phone and has some deals that just need him to say yes to, and he's either trying to improve the trade or decide on which one is best. Yes, speculation, but we now have two open roster slots and no AAA guys looking to deserve a promotion before we need to.

To me, our best and most possible options might be (in my order) 1. Paredes RHB 2 yrs (12.9 BTV) 2. Matt Shaw RHB 5 yrs (40.9) 3. Brendon Donovan 2 yrs (30.7) or Brett Baty LHB 4 yrs (21.9) Others: Nico Hoerner 1 yr (18.1) or Mark Vientos 4 yrs (15.5) I feel like I'm missing someone.

Of course nobody wants to undo that trade. Yes, maybe Meidroth was a high demand by the CWS. I'd do it again and again.

As he should. It kinda made more sense to get ES, if Masa was dumped, somehow.

He had more power, but yes, their projected OPS would probably be pretty even.

Maybe we don't get Gray and/or Contreras if that happens, but isn't this speculation?

If we end up with someone uninspiring, this should and will come back on Brez, unless Suarez sucks. I also look back at the Polanco signing- another affordable gamble. One will wonder if he'd take $17M/1 of $16N x 2 from BOS. Maybe $17M with deferments.

So, you'd have won the best, since he's at .775, and yet Brez still failed.

Not sure how this matters. It could be (I'm not going to speculate) that the AAV and tax line was what mattered most. I think the AAV for Range came out about teh same as the Bregman offer with deferments. I'm not sure about that, but if true, it kinda supports the theory that the tax line mattered. Again, I'm not sure, so I'm holding off signing blame until we know, and even if we find out Brez could have given the NTC and or offered a higher AAV or total amount and he refused to, then blame away. I'm still thinking that this is all part of the cat & mouse game of negotiations, where bluffing or not bluffing happens a lot. If you want to blame someone for misjudging a bluff, that's another debate, too. If Brez bungled it, of course it is concerning, It should be. I've never said otherwise. IMO, if was ever going to bungle a negotiation, I'm glad it was this one, since I'd rather have Suarez. The Alonso offer was not even close, and I wanted him. I'd be thinking a little differently if this was all about losing out on my plan A. Yes, I still wonder and worry about Brez'z ability to land the guys we want. I'm just not blaming him for this one without those key facts about the NTC, deferments and top dollar limits (or no limits.) You can't or won't even acknowledge that position has merit. Instead you claim my position is based on speculation, when my whole point is I'm not going to blame anyone yet, based on speculation and unknow facts.

In 83 PAs. He was at .523 in 2024. I'm okay getting a LHB, but not one needing a platoon.

As much as I mistrust projected numbers, I'd trust that over "Career OPS" and maybe even last 2, 3 or 5 year OPS numbers, STEAMER 2026 .869 Caminero .858 KMarte .857 Seager .840 Ramirez .810 Devers .806 de la Cruz .800 Paredes notables: .783 Bregman, .781 Muncy, .764 Donovan

Okay, so he pocketed a portion of a portion of about $5M we saved in 2025 on the Devsr trade-minus additions like Hicks, DMay, Matz....

Ill just go for OPS since 2021 (last 5 years) 2B: .857 KMarte (not available) .839 Altuve (Don't want him) .792 B Lowe (not .800) .775 Chisholm & Polanco, .772 Donovan 3B .868 Devers .865 Ramirez (not available) .842 Riley (owed a fortune and been declining) .822 Machado (see Riley) .819 Muncy (doubt he'll hit .800) .812 Caminero (not available) .799 Bregman (would not have met your criteria) .778 Arenado (LOL) .777 Paredes (My choice) Who would satisfy you?

So, it's structured so that he pockets it all?

We lost some of our best bats from 2025, and 7th in runs has to be within the context of playing half our games in a hitter's park. Top 6 OPS in 2025 (PAs) .905 Devers (334) .859 Anthony (303) .838 Refsnyder (209) .826 Romy (341) .821 Bregman (495) .790 N Lowe (119) That's over 1150 PAs gone. We added Contreras .791 in 563 PAs. He's one point better than Nate Lowe was. Okay, let's count on 300 more PAs from Anthony doing as well as 2025, we're still at least 300 PAs short of reaching last year's 1150 PAs, and Contreras probably won't match Devers/Bregman/Refsnyder's numbers. Yes, we can win in other ways, and our rotation looks way better. We shouldn't forget that we ended up trading for DMay to "fix" a rotation that got us to the playoffs. Now, how good does that look? Do the add & subtract comp to 2025 on that one. KaPOW!

Well, you continually neglected to even mention Contreras and quickly moved beyond the Gray and Suarez additions, so my guess is maybe nobody short of KMarte would get your okay. Is there anybody available or mentioned that you'd be okay with? Let's start there. If the guy we get hits .820 or is it .780, would you change your mind?

Not sure about this, but how do you figure that? 2025 money only, yes. He added Hicks, DMay, Matz & NLowe, which were drops in the bucket, but we aren't talking about $30M for Devers in 2025. It was a fraction (half?) or $27M. That's maybe $14M. Half of Hicks is $6M, so we're down to $8M for 2025 minus what was paid for DMay, Matz & others. Okay, he pocketed something.... maybe Joe's beach house and mine, too. Our budget is $25M more this year than 2025, so I'm not seeing pocketing going on at a higher rate than with Devers.

I don't trust them, anymore. I think cots has us about $23M below line 3. Spotrac has us at $275M. That's $9M below line 3.

Looking at the CWS BTV rundown, 3 of their top 11 players are from the Crochet trade: 3. Braden Montgomery 22 5. Chae Meidroth 21 11. Kyle Teel 18 Kinda wish we still had Meidroth and had sent them someone else- like Romero.

I think it's kinda funny how the money saved on the Hicks deal is about $6M x 2 years, and Donovan's arb estimate is about $6M for year 1.

So, you wanna believe that Brez placed the NTC limit on himself. You wanna believe he chose to put massive deferments on the contract, by himself. Fine, but that is you speculating, not me. Talk a out "missing the point" and see the "exact opposite." I'm not saying I know. I'm not speculating. I came right out and said "We don't know the orders given to him," so how is that speculating he was known to have orders? It's you speculating and blaming based on speculations.

LOL All that's left is Harrison & Jose Bello

Since the CWS are probably 5-6 years away from being respectable, how about... Masa + $10M out of $36M owed plus Soto, Delzine & Cason for 3 used bats? Then, we sign Suarez and trade for Paredes. That's two RHBs!

He's sub .520 vs LHPs career. Yikes!

I totally get that point. What makes you think I don't? The Sox have missed out on "the player they wanted" countless times. They may have come closest on Breggie, but so what, They set a price and got beat, once again, The limits are set by the team so I can't see why they'd blame Brez for sticking to the limits they place on him. It seems to me that is the point one of us is missing. Of course they wanted Breggie and are upset we didn't get him. It's the assigning blame part i am odds with you over and NOT the fact that we missed out on our Plan A. (I'm pretty sure he was plan A.) Why ask if I think Cora wanted him back? You think I feel he didn't? What did I ever say to make you even thing to ask such an absurd, yes absurd, question? You often think the problem with someone who disagrees with you is because the simply don't understand or are "missing the point." Of course, everyone sees the point that is front and center: once again, the Sox missed out on a player they were interested in. Bregman was probably the most wanted of all those in recent memory. I get that. That fact does make this more impactful and concerning. If they can't get the guy they really wanted most of all over several years, then WTF? I just am not about to place all the blame on the guy following the orders given him, and yes we do not know what orders were given him, which is all the more reason for me to not jump to conclusions, and certainly what "more knowledgeable" taking heads on ESPN and wherever else isn't going to force me to make a false choice.