moonslav59

I don’t think you trade great prospects for rentals every year you have a good chance of making a strong run at a ring. It’s all about timing. I agree on your Cubs example. I’m not sure this Sox team and situation warrants big moves.

Tying what record?

I found one: our top 4 hitters in the opening line up got on base 7 of 14 times with 1 HR.

There goes the run differential.

Andriese is out of options. He’d have to clear waivers first.

I think he meant “rather than” not “while,”

Not at all, and you know I have been advocating DFAing Santana and Andriese. I was also for demoting Dalbec a while back. I do tend to think players deserve longer looks than you and others, but I am not against giving up on non-performers. Can I ask if you think Renfroe should have been benched after his horrific April? If no, how is he different from Santana or Dalbec? Also, I have said over and over- when Duran is ready, I want him called up. I will never pretend to think I know when he is ready more than Bloom knows. If you feel differently, that’s your choice. On calling up a prospect that needs to play everyday just to MAYBE improve the bench, and yes it is certainly a maybe, does not appeal to me or any of the 30 GMs in MLB. I think the onus is on you to explain why you know more than all 30 GMs. Please don’t take that as me busting your chops. I can understand the desire to try and put the best 26 out there everyday, but this is a 162 game season, and there are so many factors involved with every choice like this one.

That’s a certainty. Nobody uses just outside sources to value their players or ones the want to trade for or sign. My guess is, when. New GM comes in, he may not value inherited prospects as highly as the previous GM who acquired or developed them. Of course, even players acquired may lose perceived value over time.

Yes. He may replace them with someone else or 3-4 players to replace those 2. He does not have to run the Sox like he did the Rays.

Were there more on their last list?

2021 Run Differential +84 TBR +67 BOS They likely view us as "pesky." SP fWAR 8.4 BOS (8th) 6.8 TBR (15th) RP fWAR 3.6 TBR (3rd) 3.5 BOS (4th) Everyday Player fWAR 13.7 TBR 13.6 BOS Offense: 21.3 BOS 8.8 TBR Defense 12.0 TBR -0.9 BOS I still don't get these numbers: UZR/150 6.8 TBR (3rd) 5.7 BOS (4th) (I'm losing my faith in this metric) DRS (seems more accurate) 60 TBR (1st) 14 BOS (14th)

...and good pitching.

Well, .772 is a big improvement over Marwin & Santana and even Dalbec.

I admit I am very naïve about slot and bonus money, but I don't understand why any player would agree to go well below slot money, unless they think they'd drop far enough in the draft to make less at that slot. Is that how it works? Here are the numbers: First Round 1) Pirates: $8,415,300 2) Rangers: $7,789,900 3) Tigers: $7,221,200 4) Red Sox: $6,664,000 5) Orioles: $6,180,700 6) D-backs: $5,742,900 7) Royals: $5,432,400 8) Rockies: $5,176,900 9) Angels: $4,949,100 10) Mets: $4,739,900 11) Nationals: $4,547,500 12) Mariners: $4,366,400 13) Phillies: $4,197,300 14) Giants: $4,036,800 15) Brewers: $3,885,800 Here are the bonus pools for all 30 clubs: Pirates: $14,394,000 Tigers: $14,253,800 Rangers: $12,641,000 Reds: $11,905,700 Orioles: $11,829,300 Red Sox: $11,359,600 D-backs: $11,271,900 Royals: $10,917,700 Rockies: $10,543,900 Brewers: $10,063,400 Marlins: $9,949,800 Angels: $9,295,900 Mets: $9,026,300 Nationals: $8,770,000 Mariners: $8,526,000 Phillies: $8,295,000 Cardinals: $8,167,100 Twins: $8,101,400 Giants: $8,070,600 Rays: $7,955,800 Guardians: $7,398,800 Yankees: $6,943,700 Padres: $6,812,300 Cubs: $6,779,400 White Sox: $6,618,600 Braves: $6,326,300 Athletics: $6,188,900 Blue Jays: $5,775,900 Dodgers: $4,646,700 Astros: $2,940,600 The Astros really got bashed hard.

Some interesting Sox OPS trends... JD was falling for over a month, but has recently leap-frogged Bogey and Devers in OPS: .933 JD .932 Devers .913 Bogey One big game by any of these guys can jumble their positions. (Verdugo has fallen to the second tier but is still doing well.) The next set of players has grown from just Renfroe to 4 guys. This is great news as we now have 7 guys over .739. .780 Verdugo (may drop from the top 4, soon) .778 Renfroe (pretty consistent since May 1st) .756 Kike (on a steep rise) .739 Arroyo (big drop after 0-5 night) The next tier has a few players on the rise, and maybe 1-2 may joing tier two by the end of July. .684 Dalbec (still waiting for a longer hot streak) .668 Plawecky (on IL) .651 Vaz (hoping he can find that near .800 level, again) .585 Marwin (actually doing better) .557 Chavis (last gasp) .522 Santana (on IL) Last 14 Days (20+ PAs) 1.161 JD 1.121 Kike 1.120 Devers .820 Renfroe .819 Bogey .755 Marwin .748 Dalbec (.827 last 28 days) .708 Verdugo .569 Vaz

Exactly. There were some calling for Renfroe to be demoted, platooned or worse after his April. That sample size is not much different from the length of Dalbec's slump or Santana's scattered sample size of failure. I'm guilty of over-reacting, too. I often print the recent 7, 14 and 28 day numbers to show who is hot. I often argue, why demote Dalbec when he's hit .850 over the last __ games. Baseball is a game of patience in a world of increasing impatience.

They see big stud prospects making instant impacts for other teams and equate Duran with players like Guerrero, Acuna and Tatis.

I agree. No 7 day, 30 day or even longer sample sizes should be the determining factor in a promotion or demotion. My point was about Renfroe not Duran.

Casas is above A Ball, but I do not think he is ML ready. Ockimey is on his "last chance" season in the minors and is not showing he deserves a chance, despite the decent splits as a platoon.

Had we called him up July 1st, as many wanted, why should we have expected he'd do any better than .636? It's a gamble. It's easy to look back and say so-and-so hit .400 in July, so how can he have done worse, but nobody knew, for sure, so-and-so was going to hit .400 on June 30th.

So, why is 7 days the magical cut off for determining how well a player will do going forward?

I'd like nothing more than Duran being called, start and do well. Yes, he can help in many ways, assuming he does well. The thing is, I also like Kike, Arroyo and Dalbec. I think all have shown they deserve a longer look. None should be benched, totally for anyone else in our system. I don't want Duran called up to ride the bench, even if he's better than Santana and Marwin combined. It would stunt his growth. If I was 100% sure Duran could do better than Dalbec, I still would not call him up to replace Dalbec. It would mean weakening our defense at 2 positions by moving Kike to 1B. It would end Dalbec's chance to prove he can be our FT 1Bman. It would lessen Kike's value to the team. No move like this is made in isolation. It seems obvious Duran is better than Marwin and Santana, but it's not that simple.

IMO, we are going to sign 3 decent FAs, this winter, minimum. We may go big on 3 or moderate on 5, but I doubt we sign 6 or more players expected to be on the opening day 26 man roster, unless we trade some good players away.

Then, who replaces next year's 3 IL guys?

Big drop off for the top two pen guys.