moonslav59

While I whole-heartedly agree, I felt the same about Ben. (I don't want to open the can of worms on which deals were Ben's and which were not his.)

Yes, I noticed that. If he was hitting a consistent .750 over his first 340 PAs in MLB, most would think that was a very nice start- very promising, and nothing to think about, in terms of demotions or benching/platooning, but the unbalanced nature of the start of his career- spread out over 2 seasons, makes it harder to know just who Dalbec is. It was my hope, he could muster a decent OBP, despite striking out a lot, but the .290 career mark needs to improve for me to be sold on him as our corner IF'er of the future. I am far from giving up on him, but there are times I think a benching or demotion are not far-fetched.

Yes, there is a good chance none of these guys are cut or demoted. Sale, Houck and Brasier, assuming they reach the ability to be called up may replace players placed on the IL and not Rios, Andriese or Workman (or Santana).

88 games played. We are 54-34 27-17 Home & Away .500 or better vs every team we played, except Texas (1-3) and HOU (2-5). Divide the season into 8- 11 game sample sizes: 8-3 5-6 7-4 6-5 6-5 7-4 7-4 8-2 How about 4- 22 game sample sizes? 13-9 13-9 13-9 15-6

He's just a placeholder for Sale or Houck.

Change of subject: Bobby Dalbec: .959 first 92 PAs .595 middle 173 PAs .873 last 73 PAs (Basically, he's been about a 900 hitter early and late and 600 in the middle.) Career: .751 in 338 PAs Projected over 676 PAs: .229 36 102 (66 XBHs)

I get that, and I don't entirely disagree. I just look at the trade without what happened after. Many view the Beckett trade as including his re-signing much later.

They do. They keep all their options open. He can certainly return to April form, again. Santana could return to 2018 form. Rios? Does he have a good time period?

If you could trade picks, would you trade the 4th pick for the 10th and a second rounder? It seems hard to place value on draft slots.

Some seem to think that contract is the reason he hasn't been cut, so far. (not me)

I'm not saying they did have thoughts of making a strong play for Betts. My point was that even if they did, I don't count any extension as part of the trade.

I think it's all about health and the return of Sale, Houck and to a lesser extent, Brasier. These are the likely ones to be replaced... Andriese Rios Maybe Workman for Brasier? (We'll know more about Workman when Brasier is ready.)

Since the draft is so much more hit and miss, one would think it is less important and therefore less reason to disallow trades of picks.

Even if the Sox felt they might make a strong play for Betts after 2020, I still don't think linking any extension or re-signing should be viewed as part of the trade. I get your point, and from the Dodger perspective, counting the extension seems obvious- just like we did with AGon.

I thought the Andriese signing was a good bet, but it's hard to get excited about a career 4.65 Pitcher, nor this.... 1.333 WHIP 8.3 K/9 is not bad 2.6 BB/9 is not so good 9.4 H/9 is meh Previous 3 seasons (2018-2020): 4.91 ERA 1.324 WHIP (3.1 BB/9)

It seems strange not to have already happened.

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We have not picked this high since the 60's. There is good reason for some excitement. Having the best AL record and picking 4th is a special thing that has never happened in Red Sox Nation.

I agree, but it's debatable whether to include the extension as part of the trade. Since it wasn't part of the actual trade, I think not, but I can understand why some think it should be. It was similar to the AGon trade, where the extension was delayed but always expected.

The thing is, Eovaldi & Pearce turned out to be rather "earth shattering," despite not seeming to be at the time of the deals. As for Cashman, yes... 2020: nothing 2019: Joe Harvey for Alfredo Garcia 2018: Tyler Austin & Luis Rijo for Lance Lynn Shreve & Gallegos for Luke Voit McKinney & Drury for JA Happ 3 players for Zach Britton

The top 5 AL teams are starting to pull away from the rest. You got your three division leaders: BOS, HOU & CWS, and your 2 WC leaders TBR & OAK. The next WC teams are all 3.5 or more games behind Oakland: 3.5 TOR & SEA 4.5 LAA & NYY 5.0 CLE (All others are more than 9 games out) Deadline sellers? DET, MN, KC, TX, BAL In the NL, it's 5 and the rest, as well: The NLW has 3 of the best 4 records in the NL, and look certain to get both WCs. MIL & NYM have good leads in their divisions. Cincy is 5.5 behing the last WC team, right now, the SDP. Philly is 7.5. STL, ATL, WSH & Cubs are all 8 back and may be sellers at the deadline- PHI, too. These teams are 12 or more games behind the WC: MIA, COL, PIT, AZ (They should all be sellers.) Note: due to the rather poor record by the NLE leader, the Mets, these teams could still be in the race for the division crown at the deadline: PHI -4.0 ATL -4.5 WSH -4.5 The 3 weeks after the AS break is going to determine who are the sellers. Right now, it looks like there are a clear 9 sellers with another 6 to 9 possible additions in the next 3 weeks.

If it's $25.6, I think the Sox would have done that. That's still a big chunk of change that would radically alter future financial decisions for many years ahead, and we'd no longer have Verdugo, Downs and Wong, but if you include the extension as part of the trade, it gets more interesting.

None of those 3 had really promising outlooks when traded. Those are the types of deals Bloom may make. Going into this season, Bloom may have been envisioning trades like last summer- seller trades.

Ending up with the best record, or best AL record, would be sweet, but making the playoffs, perhaps by winning the ALE has to be the main prize sought, this year (without messing with our future, of course). More and more, it looks like we are the favorites to win the division and have very favorable odds at making the playoffs. WHAT A SEASON!

Sounds like the type of deal more than just one team would have done, including the Sox. Plus, there is debate over just what the AVV is.