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Theo left Ben a nice farm. He did leave some bad contracts, but it's not even close. Theo's last draft with the Sox got us Betts, JBJ and Barnes. They joined a farm stocked with Bogey and others. He left a budget of about $175M in 2011 with some players coming off the book. DD left Devers and had a payroll or almost $240M in 2018 and over $243 in 2019. I think it's up to you to show why you think they are similar. Please explain the similarities.

I'm not sure, either. I am sure Robles should not be anywhere near Boston, unless he's on the other team.

They will. Their number is up. 70% of their remaining games are vs contenders.

Don't expect two admissions in a single decade.

Big difference between what Theo left the next GM and DD. Nice try.

I'm swimming in happiness for Woo. Does that count?

It's great to see Pivetta step it up. With Perez and Richards losing all hopes for any future rotation duty, we needed Pivetta to come through. Great trade by Bloom, last summer. If we can hold this win for him, the team will be 15-8 in his starts. That 7 win differential is half our games over .500! He only has one start, all year, where he let up more than 4 ERs. He had a 3.78 ERA after 12 games, hit a bit of a rough patch (5.63 in his next 9 starts), but has now gone 2 starts looking like his previous self. 8/7 6 IP 1 H 0 ER 1 BB 6K So far, tonight: 6 IP 3H 1 ER 2BB 8K Welcome back, Nick!

...and I'm impressed.

LOL! .667 OBP 234 runs scored per 162.

He's not even 7th on the DFA list.

Lots of hard outs tonight.

I thought about that. It couldn't have been a last chance- like if he had gone 4 for 5, he'd still be on the 40.

I'm impressed.

Agreed. He could be the 1Bman FA I have listed. He could also play him in LF, Verdugo in CF and Kike at 2B.

$3M. If someone claims him, LOL, subtract what they pay him.

No. You considered us in shambles. I projected a cliff longer than it appears to have been. I was wrong.

Yuppers!

Now, it's Bobby Dee time!

I'm so happy for Duran. Maybe this can be the spark for him and the team.

Rule 5, this winter: Jecorrah Arnold Brayan Bello Cole Brannen Gary Calvo Marco Cardoso Pedro Castellanos Felix Cepeda Kole Cottam Kutter Crawford Ricardo Cubillan Osvaldo De La Rosa Tyler Dearden Jonathan Diaz Danny Diaz Jeter Downs Tyler Esplin Durbin Feltman Ryan Fernandez Ryan Fitzgerald Antoni Flores Frank German Rio Gomez Devlin Granberg Gilberto Jimenez Jose Larez Dominic LoBrutto Bryan Lucas Charlie Madden Alan Marrero Elih Marrero Joan Martinez Alexander Montero Oddanier Mosqueda Brendan Nail Brett Netzer Tanner Nishioka Kaleb Ort Yusniel Padron-Artiles Aaron Perry Antonio Police AJ Politi Ceddanne Rafaela Oscar Rangel Tyreque Reed Jesus Rosillo Yasel Santana Victor Santos Zach Schellinger John Schreiber Gregori Segovia Chase Shugart Miguel Suero Jake Thompson Thaddeus Ward Grant Williams Josh Winckowski

I usually wait until the current season is over or all but over to start next year's thread, but it does not make sense discussing 2022 on the 2021 thread, so here it is... Here is a look at next year's projected 26 (Red) and 40 (Blue) man roster. Free Agents: ERod Ottavino Marwin Robles Santana Projected Options not given: Richards ($10M/$1.5 Mb/o) Perez ($6M/ $500K b/0) Andriese ($3.5M/ $250K b/o) Projected opt out: Schwarber ($11.5M) Projected Options given: Vaz ($7M) Projected no opt out: JD ($19.4M) 2022 (4 projected FA signings- #2 SP, #2 RP, 1B, Utility IF'er): (5) Rule 5 protected SP: Sale, FA, Eovaldi, Pivetta, Whitlock, Seabold, Groome, Mata, Bello (5), Winckowski (5) RP: Barnes, FA, Houck, Taylor, DHern, Sawamura, Brasier, Valdez Rios, Bazardo C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong, Ro. Hernandez (bubble?) 1B: FA, Dalbec, Cordero 2B: Arroyo Downs (5) 3B: Devers SS: Bogey, FA LF: Verdugo CF: Kike, Duran. Jimenez (5) RF: Renfroe DH: JD Any 3 from... 5th FA or 6th FA Current 40 Man Bubble (all have options remaining): A Davis, Rosario, Potts, Arauz Possible Rule 5 protected: Kutter Crawford, Victor Santos, Thaddeus Ward Cole Brannen, Cole Cottam, Durbin Feltman, Frank German, Devlin Granberg. Kaleb Ort, Tyreque Reed, John Schreiber The budget outlook is a little murky, due to JD's opt out and a few options that might be viewed as borderline (not by me). Here is a look at the lux tax numbers for 2022 (by cots): Locked Up: $100.5M 25.6 Sale 20.0 Bogey 17.0 Eovaldi 16.0 Price 9.38 Barnes 7.00 Kike 1.50 Sawamura Arbs (2021 salary) $24.5 10.5 Devers 2 of 3 (4.6) YES 5.00 Renfroe 3 of 4 (3.1) 2.50 Plawecki 4 of 4 (1.6) 1.50 Brasier 2 of 3 (1.3) 0.90 Cordero 2 of 3 (800K) 2.50 Verdugo 1 of 3 (650K) 2.50 Pivetta 1 of 3 (614K) 1.10 Arroyo 1 of 3 (582K) 1.00 Taylor 1 of 4 (581K) Pre-Arb Keepers (on 40 man): D Hernandez P Valdez Houck Dalbec Whitlock Duran Groome B Mata Y Rios C Seabold C Wong Pre-Arb Bubblers (on 40 man): A Davis Arauz Bazardo Ro Hernandez H Potts J Rosario Player Opt Out or Mutual Option: ($19.5M) 22.0 JD (19.4 projected no opt out) 10.0 Schwarber (11.5 m/o w 3 b/o) projected no option Team Options (my projection) 2021lux tax): ($7M) 10.0 w 1.5 b/o Richards (NO) 10.0 6.0 w 500K b/o Perez (NO) 5.0 7.0 w 250K b/o Vaz (YES) 4.5 3.5 w 250K b/o Andriese (NO) 2.1 Free Agents (2021 $$$ lux tax): 13.8 Pedey (Retired) 8.9 Ottavino 8.3 ERod 3.0 Marwin (DFA'd) 2.8 Beni (paid to KCR-2021) 2.0 Robles ??? Santana (NYY paid us $1.8M for Ottavino in 2021) TOTAL BUDGET: 151.5M + 2.5M other 40man roster players +15.5M Player Benefits $170M 4-5 FA Pick-ups: SP2 (1-3 years) RP2 (1-3 years) 1B (1-2 years) Utility (1-2 years) Pitcher (1-2 years)

That was my step 1.

...after running under a ladder while spilling salt.

We would have waived Chavis, this winter for the Rule 5's. DFA'ing Andriese or Richards admits mistakes, too. I think we all agree Santana goes, but who goes for Brasier? Name a name.

1. Activate Sale, DFA Santana, Promote Sale, Demote Davis (Robles has no options) 2. Activate Brasier, DFA Robles, Promote Brasier 3. Activate Vaz, Demote Wong 4. Activate Arroyo, Demote Arauz 5. Activate DHern, Demote Richards or Cordero