moonslav59

Agreed, but adjusting and swapping proposals before the big crunch time meeting is usually necessary.

Is there another?

I'm interested to see what the owners counter with.

We also added.... Wandy Abreu, Jose Liriano & Cristian Nunez (IFAs) Michael Gettys (re-signed?) Austin Lambright & Brian Keller (Minor League Rule 5)

That was my point to jacko. Again, they may be deeper after the top 100 or 120, but not by as much as before, and I think we passed them, overall, on the strength of our top 4-5 prospects. We also have some young prospects that could rise sharply, this summer. (Doesn't it sound nice saying, "This summer?")

Let's see how the owner respond.

Who have we added as MiLB free agent signings?

Bobby D does have an .819 career OPS and a 115 wRC+. While that is not great and is not close to Youk and AGon in their prime, Bobby D might still improve. If not, maybe Casas is our next AGon/Youk.

I check in about once a week on the NBA. I see how my Bucks are doing, look over the standings and some stats, and then check out, again. Some observations as the league heads to their halfway point: 1) The West still seems stronger, as they have 4 teams with the top record in the NBA (or tied with Miami), but they drop off quickly after the top 4. 2) The East has 9 teams at .500 or better and the Knicks at 23-24. 3) The West has 7 teams at .500 and the lakers aat 23-24. 4) The West has 5 teams under .380. The East just 3. 5) The Celtics are the only NBA team with 2 of the top 18 scorers. 6) These players have over 6 Assists, 6 Rebounds and 12 Points per game: A-R-Pts 8-14-26 Jokic 9-9-26 Doncic 6-11-29 Giannis 10-8 23 Harden 9-9-19 Murray 8-8-19 Westbrook 6-8-29 James 6-6-21 Butler 6-7-11 Giddey 7-6-25 Morant 6-7-25 George 6-6-18 C Anthony

Lets say Bloom "splurges" a little bit and signs Suzuki and Collin McHugh. Could this be the Opening Day 26 man roster? SP: Eovaldi, Sale, Wacha, Pivetta, Hill (Paxton later in season) RP: Houck, Whitlock, McHugh, Barnes, Brasier, Taylor, Davis, Sawamura (DHern) C: Vaz & Plawecki 1B: Dalbec (Casas later in season) 2B: Hernandez/Arroyo 3B: Devers SS: Bogaerts LF: Verdugo CF: JBJ/Hernandez RF: Suzuki DH: Martinez OF: Duran IF: Arauz (Down later in season) Line-Up: 1. Kike 2B/CF 2. Devers 3B 3. Bogaerts SS 4. Martinez DH 5. Suzuki RF 6. Verdugo LF v R/ Dalbec 1B v L 7. Dalbec 1B v R/ Verdugo LF v L 8. Vaz C 9. JBJ CF v R/ Arroyo 2B v L

Maybe Part I of this thread will last to July.

Not that Millar could ever come close to the HOF, but are scabs allowed in the Hall? Talk amongst yourselves.

Saying they did well or good is not saying they were better than AGon, although the 2012 AGon was not much better. I was not "defending" them as being better than AGon. I merely pointed out those individual seasons compared to the 2012 AGon season. You assume more than what is written- a common thing for you.

I almost did, and Tazawa, too. Putting Buch as a RP'er was pushing it, too. He was clearly a SP'er. Wake and DLowe were used in relief a lot.

I did not "defend" 2016 or 2018. You assume a lot, as always. Yes, AGon in 2011 was awesome, and we haven't had a full season like that since. I'm not disagreeing with you. The numbers did point out AGon's 2012 version was close to the same or even worse than some who came after, including Napoli in 2013 only, HRam in 2016 only, and Moreland in 2018 only. I specifically said I guess Dalbec's 2020 does not count. Yes, their seasons were pretty much "middle of the road," except for maybe Napoli's 2013 season, but so was AGon's last season with the Sox. When you say "since AGon" that should count 2012, too. When combining all seasons with the Sox, AGon beats out napoli, HRam and Moreland, so in that sense, he was clearly the best we've had in a decade. It's not even close: wRC+ since 2011: 138 AGon 116 Napoli 115 Dalbec 108 Moreland 103 HRam (some in LF) 99 Shaw 80 Chavis OPS .895 AGon .819 Dalbec .803 Moreland .785 Napoli I was just providing facts and looking at individual seasons. It might not be how you were making your judgment or want others to view it, but it's a valid way at looking at our 1Bmen over the years. I know I can be hypercritical, at times, but you take it to a very high level.

Maybe since Napoli (2013 version, which was better than the 2012 version of AGon). Also, HRam did well in 2016, and 2018 with Moreland & Pearce was good. I guess we don't count 2020. Red Sox 1B production since 2011: 2011 .329 28 118 (.944 OPS/136 OPS+) AGon 2012 .289 22 96 (.795/104) AGon (Loney) 2013 .262 26 106 (.841/117) Napoli (Carp) 2014 .222 16 65 (.692/85) Napoli (Craig/Carp) 2015 .226 29 82 (.727/84) Napoli/Shaw 2016 .269 29 112 (.807/104) HRam (Shaw) 2017 .240 25 80 (.749/80) Moreland (HRam/Shaw) 2018 .267 23 109 (.794/106) Moreland/Pearce (HRam) 2019 .244 29 99 (.745/86) Moreland/Chavis (Pearce/Travis) 2020 .280 18 44 (.942/137) Dalbec/Chavis/Moreland 2021 .239 30 97 (.777/90) Dalbec (Marwin/Schwarber/Santana)

Here's a task: name the all Red Sox team under Henry's Leadership (2003 to 2022>) C- Varitek 1B- Youkilis 2B- Pedroia 3B- Devers SS- Bogaerts LF- Manny CF- Damon RF- Betts DH- Ortiz C2- Vazquez IF- Beltre OF- Ellsbury UT- Kike Hernandez SP- Martinez SP- Lester SP- Sale SP- Beckett SP- Schilling SP- ERod RP- Uehara RP- Papelbon RP- Kimbrel RP- Foulke RP- Wakefield RP- D Lowe RP- Buchholz Honorable mention: AGon, Nomar, JBJ, Nixon, JD Drew, JD Martinez, Lowell, Mueller, Salty, Victorino, Napoli Price, Porcello, Lackey, Barnes, Dice-K, Eovaldi

notin and I tried to pick players not on the first list, so no Teddy Ballgame. Yaz played a lot of 1B (765 career games at 1B) towards the end of his career, and was pretty damn good at it. My list would be... 20's Raffy 3B 10's Betts CF 00's Papi DH 90's Garciaparra SS 80's Dewey RF 70's Fisk C 60's Yaz 1B 50's Ted Williams LF 40's Doerr 2B 9 Starting Pitchers: Pedro 90's Clemens 80's Sale 10's Tiant 70's Schilling '00's Parnell 40's Eovaldi 20's Lonborg 60's Sullivan 50's 8 RP'ers Uehara 10's Papelbon 00's Tom Gordon 90's Dick Radatz 60'2 Houck (Whitlock) 20's Bill Campbell 70's Bob Stanley 80's Ellis Kinder 40-50's

It seems to me that if over half the players make under $1.2M and might be worrying about sticking in the bigs a few owner concessions could maybe get a majority vote from the players without breaking their banks. 1. Raise the minimum wage considerably. 2. Increase the MLB roster size to 27. Enacting a minimum team spending budget could be something more they could "give," but what will they want back?

There was only the rule of one player from each of the last 9 decades. Some of us decided to try and not repeat names already used. Of course, Ted Williams would be on every list, following the original intent of this event.

I know, but the idea made it more interesting.

He was pretty healthy for 6 years (2013-2018), but yes, he has missed significant time the last 3 years: 264 games played 384 games available 69% of games played with a .626 combined OPS From 2017-2018, he played in 304 out of 324 games and had a .753 OPS, won 2 GGs and finished top 15 in MVP voting, each year.

I became a Sox fan after Rico was moved to 3B. He was one of my faves, too. Tommy Harper was my first fave- back from his days in Milwaukee.

So, now we are talking deep beyond 115.

No repeats but back 10 decades... 30's Foxx 1B 40's Stephens SS 50's Pesky 2B 60's Petrocelli 3B 70's Lynn CF 80's Gedman C 90's Mo Vaughn DH 00's Manny LF 10's Betts RF 20's (Devers 1B if my 1930's pick not allowed or Devers 3B 20's and George Scott 1B in the 60's- no Rico)