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Of course, nobody is going to say getting eight 1 WAR seasons from a player(s) equals one season of an 8 WAR by a traded star, but where should the line be drawn? It's probably impossible to expect a 1 year of Betts and 3 years a half- Price (like my play on words, there?) deal to bring back someone similar to Betts, but here is the WAR tally: Verdugo bWAR: 2.1 (Short season), 2.2 + 0.9, so far + 2 years of control remaining fWAR: 1.9, 2.0, 1.3 Downs: bWAR: -0.7 fWAR: -0.3, so far Wong: bWAR: 0.1, -0.1 fWAR: 0.2, 0.0, so far Betts: bWAR: 3.6 (short season) fWAR: 2.9 + a decent playoff performance It hurts watching Betts do great with the Dodgers, but the trade was forced on Bloom, and the results are not as bad as many want to think it is. Plus, we still have 2 years of Dugo and 4-5 of Wong.

I guess one could say it was Schreiber, who was called in to put out the fire in the 5th inning.

Maybe when they brought Ort in? (LOL)

He was so far from "horrible." No he was not worth close to that contract, and I'm okay, barely, with saying it was a horrible contract, but he was not Horrible. No stats show he is in the bottom 3rd in any major category. He's in the top 3rd in a few. Let's just agree to disagree on this one and get over it.

I still wonder if Story was the guy Bloom wanted, all along. I get a feeling JH panicked and suddenly told Bloom, in March, it was OK to sign someone to about $150, and what choices were left, at that time. Pure conjecture on my part, as we were apparently interested in Baez and Suzuki. In that respect, I'm glad we got Story.

You still have to guess right and outbid these contracts: $130M/3 Scherzer $115M/5 R Ray 11-8 3.58 $110M/5 Gausman 10-9 3.14 $77M/5 ERod Major Cluster $71M/3 Stroman 3-6 3.98 $56M/4 J Gray 7-6 3.83 It looks like we should have just brought Martin Perez back, instead of Robbles & Diekman. 10-5 2.89 I'm sure all the Bloom bashers would have loved that signing, at the time.

The Betts shadow. (Not his fault.)

And, did you see Cora laughing when we were down 3? The nerve of that clown!

Is it ever going to be okay to move JD down even 1 slot?

Bazardo gets the Bazzarro win!

It's amazing how this team refused to let Cora hold them down.

The best part of the 2B is that JD can't GIDP!

We shoulda benched Devers!

Signs of life, despite Cora telling them to slack off and go easy, tonight.

Sounds good on paper, but it won't work.

True, but Lopez already is proven, and Luzardo shows signs, too. You gotta give to get. (I'd rather give Casas and Yorke, but I doubt that's enough.)

Two nights in a row, the Sox farm teams all won. German got his 6th save with Woo in a 4-3 win. POR won 10-3. The Sea Dogs walked 9 times, and their pitchers walked 7! We K'd 15 times and the opps 8. The top 6 batting slots got on base 2 or more times. GRE won 4-1. Mayer went 3-2 w 2BB Lugo 1-2 w 2 BB Davis 3-5 w 4 rbi Salem scored 8 in the last 3 innings to win 10-5. Another big BB game. The Sox with 8 and the opps with 9! Meidroth 3-3 w 2 BB & HR Romero 2-5 w 2B & 3B Ravelo 2-4 w 4 rbi and HR .

It won't be easy, but with the expected winter spending budget Bloom will be handed, I'm not sure it needs to take years to get relevant. Were we relevant, last year? Is this a doable winter plan? Sign: Swanson, Nimmo, Kike, Abreu, Fulmer & Rogers. QO: Wacha Trade: Bello, Rafaela, Yorke, Dalbec & RHern for Lopez, Luzardo & Stallings We'd be relevant in a few months: 1. Swanson SS 2. Nimmo RF 3. Story 2B 4. Devers 3B 5. Abreu 1B 6. Kike CF 7. Verdugo LF 8. Hosmer/Refsnyder/Arroyo/EValdez/Cordero DH/Bench 9. Stallings/McGuire C SP1 Lopez SP2 Sale/Paxton SP3 Wacha SP4 Luzardo SP5 Pivetta Closer Houck RP2 Whitlock RP3 Rogers RP4 Schreiber RP5 Fulmer RP6 Taylor RP7 Barnes RP8 Crawford/German/Others

Strahm has looked pretty good, but like Wacha, he's a FA after this year.

Yes, he should have signed great and durable pitchers for $7M and $5M, He sucks! You are right.

Pivetta is fine for a #5, maybe even 4. Taylor was pretty good. I'm not sure he can come back. Keep Barnes to see if he can bounce back. Bello, Crawford and German should get a look. Mata, too.

I'm only talking about the 4 year contract, but you keep wanting to change the subject. Pitching in Fenway affects your ERA. ERA+ or ERA- are better comparative stats to use and he was not only far from bad, he was pretty good. His contract was not horrible. You talk about his last year with the Mets and don't even mention 6 years with DET where he started 27-33 games, every year. He was average for 6 years w DET and sucked for 1 with the Mets, and you say I'm throwing crap against the wall. Only 22 out of 131 GS'd did Porcello let up more than 4 runs in a game, the vast majority of those were only 5 ERs in 5+ IP. It wasn't me who said, he was b ad most of his time here; it was you. Game by game, he had 74 QS in 131 GS. That's 56.5% GS rate, which is way abover average, let alone "horrible." Looking deeper, in his 57 starts that were not QSs, he had these games... 15 were games with 5+ IP and only 4 ER 11 of those 15 were 6 or more IP and only 4 ER. He was not horrible or even bad. As for being worth $20M a year, I have never come close to defending that.

V Santos with an interesting line: 5 IP 4H 0ER 5BB 4K. Keller came in and walked 3 in 1.2. Walks are the theme of the night. So far, Drohan has 4 BBs in 3.1 IP, but the Sea Dogs have score 8 on 8 BBs and just 4 hits. Of course Kavadas has a BB. Abreu 1-1 2 BB Koss 1-1 1BB 3RBI Potts 1-2 BB Northcut 1-2 BB Liu 5 IP 3H 0ER 1BB 10Ks!!! Sikes 2-3 2B Davis 2-3 Mayer 1-1 2BB Lugo 1-2 BB Perales walked 5 in 2.2 IP Meidroth 3-3 (3rd HR) Romero 1-3 w 2B

Yes, and I said, "finally you are counting just 4." I saw that.

"Bad most of the time." 2016: Quality starts 79% (led team) He only let up more than 4 runs in a game once out of 33 starts and that was just 5 runs in 6IP. ! 3 of the 5 starts with 4 ERS allowed he pitched 6+ innings. 2017 58% QS (3rd on the team) 7 out of 33 starts with more than 5 ERs allowed (all over 5 IP) 2018: 48% QS (3rd on team) and only 5 of 33 starts over 4 runs (3 of then 5 ERs in 5.1, 6.0 and 7.0 IP) Only 2 real bad games. 2019 was horrible, but 41% QS was still 3rd on the team. 9 out of 32 starts were over 4 ERs (3 were 5, 6 were 6.) \ Clearly, he was good in the vast majority of his games.