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I'd trade Mayer for a TOTRS, if the pitcher had 4+ years of control, maybe 3 if better than Lopez... like Rogers on MIA (4 yrs). BTV does accept Casas & Duran for Lopez and Bleday, but I think it might take Casas and Yorke to get those two. (BTV accepted as "minor overpay" by Sox.)

I'd think we'd start with Hosmer vs RHPs and Arroyo vs LHPs. Dalbec & Cordero in AAA.

No, not 3. We choose two- most likely Dalbec is in AAA and Cordero is the 4th OF'er/DH/3rd 1Bman or in AAA. If one of the two sides of the platoon struggles or gets hurt (Arroyo?), then one of the others steps in.

BTV accepts this great trade for the Sox, but I am near certain, MIA would laugh at the offer: Casas, Dalbec, Duran, Yorke & Wink for Lopez, Luzardo, Bleday

6 years of team control. I doubt they trade him. These are the guys they keep for 4 more years.

Casas is valued higher than Lopez on BTV, so they actually support your position. I vale an ace-type SP'er at arb costs very highly, and don't think we can win without adding someone like him. I'm fine with the idea of adding someone like him while keeping Casas, but I don't agree on trading mayer to do it. Pablo is 26 1/2. he's just now entering peak prime. 2020-2022 (ages 24-26) 3.44 ERA 122 ERA+ 3.48 FIP 1.16 WHIP 6.8 bWAR is just over 2 seasons (counting 2020 + 2022 as about just over 1 season) 6.0 fWAR I'm not locked on Lopez, either, but apparently he's on the market, because MIA can't afford even his arb costs. 3.6 K/BB

As a platoon, he should be a plus, and his defense, while not great, blows Dalbec & Cordero's out of the water. I also now see Arroyo as a 1B platoon option. I have also not written off Dalbec, yet. A guy who had better AA and AAA numbers than Casas, I might add. As bas as 2022 has been, look at these splits for 2022 only: Hosmer actually had reverse splits, this year, but normally he does very well vs RHPs: .693 v R (.754 in '21/.810 career) .772 v L (.676 in '21/.668 career) Dalbec .590 v R (.690 career) .765 v L (.860 career) Arroyo usually has very even splits .751 v R (.707 career) .764 v L (.718 career) Cordero .731 v R (.707 career) .619 v L (.567 career) This year, we had an overall .668 OPS at 1B with horrific defense. I think adding Hosmer & Arroyo to next year's mix will improve the offense to over .720 and the defense by a mile. I'm not "happy" with the group, and would like to see us add Abreu, Bell or Mancini, but if we spend wisely at the other slots of great or greater need, I think a platoon of Hosmer or Cordero v RHPs and Arroyo or Dalbec vs LHPs would be a big improvement at 1B, at no added cost. If we can limit the time Dalbec or Cordero play at 1B (both have options), our 1B defense will be much better.

Mayer has way more upside than Casas, and that trade could really come back to haunt us. Yes, it works much better for the 2023 and 2024 outlook, but I'd keep a SS over a 1Bman everyday of the week. BTW, who do you think will have better 2023-2024 number from this group: Casas Mancini Abreu Bell And, how much better is Casas expected to be over a combination of Arroyo, Hosmer and Dalbec with Jordan & Kavadas for the future?

Remember, Vaz has had several bad offensive years, too. Apparently, Stallings is very good at handling the staff and on defense. The Marlins also have about 4 young catchers in their system, so they'd likely be willing to trade him. I'm okay with McGuire and Wong, but I'm not sure how well they handle a pitching staff. If Sox brass has faith they can do better than Vaz did, in this area, I'm fine with going the whole year with .650 from a catching tandem on McGuire & Wong.

I think the loe OPS by Stallings, this year is an outlier. If they think McGuire has the same profile as Stallings, then fine.

Are they open to trading Bleday?

I don't "want to trade" Casas, but we have urgent needs and you can't get a guy like Lopez for Nick Yorke and scraps. If we could, I'd do that. Do we have a need at 2B and CF? Would you rather trade Rafaela? Do we have a need at SS, if Story stays at 2B? You say you'd rather trade the higher -valued Mayer? To me, I don't see any FA SP'ers that would meet our needs, plus the ones that are close would cost so much, we'd have little left to fill the other 4-6 slots in high need. That's the only reason I see making a trade for a low-cost SP'er as the best option. It's not because I want to trade our future 1Bman. Now, I might not be as high on Casas as some, here, but I value him highly enough that I think he's worth 2 years of an ace-quality SP'er like Lopez. Who costs more? deGrom or Mancini? (The money saved allows us to get Mancini & Swanson or Nimmo.)

Yes, although both sample sizes are small. .839 Romero in 56 ABs FCL & Sal .834 Anthony in 45 ABs FCL & Sal Let's add a third name: Chase Meidroth: 1.029 in 64 ABs in FCL & Sal Also, Brooks Brannon is 6 for 13 with 5BBs in FCL.

So, trades like Betts for 5 yrs of ML'er Dugo and near ML ready Wong & Downs?

You are assuming Casas steps right into a plus producer at 1B, where guys like Hosmer or low cost FAs like Mancini, Abreu, Bell or maybe Santana may outperform him in 2023, anyway. It's harder and more costly to try and fill SS, CF and SP slots.

Yes, 39.7 to 35.0, but I'd still give more- like a player who is a bubble 40 man roster guy we can include and not be so squeezed, this winter. Winckowski, Seabold, RHern, Downs... I'd love to try and pry Stallings from them, despite his -0.8 BTV score. Casas, RHern and Seabold for Lopez & Stallings. Accepted as a Major Overpay on BTV.

Would Judge take: $42M $42M $41M Opt out $30M $26M $24M $20M Team option w $5M buyout That's $125M/3 or $210M/6 or $225M/7.

We have about 5-6 major holes, and if you look at who we currently have to fill those slots, 1B has more hope than SS, CF, RF, SP and RP, maybe C, too. That is even after trading Casas! If you had to choose which position to leave as is, which would it be? CF: Duran, Ja Davis SS/2B: Arroyo/Downs RF: Refsnyder/ (Dugo w Pham in LF?) 2 SPs: Bello, Crawford, Wink 3-4 RP'ers: Crawford, Wink, Barnes, Taylor, German C: McGuire, Wong, RHern 1B: Hosmer, Dalbec, Arroyo, Cordero (Jordan/Kavadas) As bad as it looks, I don't see 1B as our biggest or even 2nd, 3rd or 4th biggest high need area.

You don't get a pitcher like Lopez without giving up a top prospect. 2 arb years instead of throwing money at deGrom will help us to sign Bogey or Swanson and lock up Devers.

I think only Wink graduated, this year- maybe Seabold and Crawford, too? Only Houck and Dalbec have been significant additions from the farm in a long time, unless you count Whitlock. It takes time to build up a farm, and the rise of several DD farm additions has helped, a lot, and was rather unexpected. The farm has now, or will very soon, reach the point where we can start expecting to have meaningful and cost-effective additions to the big club on a yearly basis, unless we trade a mess of them away out of desperation, this winter. I'm all for one major trade involving prospects, like for Lopez from MIA, who has 2 years remaining, but I'm not sure Bloom sees something like that in the works, or it's against his philosophy. He must be feeling the pressure to win in 2023 while trying to remain balanced. IMO, I think Casas is the piece that can get us a key return, and even though 1B has been a weak area for quite sometime, finding capable 1Bmen should be an easier thing to do than a solid SP'er. Signing Abreu might be an option, or we could spend everywhere else and roll the dice, again, on Hosmer/Arroyo/Dalbec/Cordero (Jordan-Kavadas) going forward. Here's another look at expected ETAs of our top prospects per soxprospects.com: 2023 2. Casas 3. Bello 7. Mata (mid) 8. Walter (late) 12. Murphy (mid) 13. Wong (back-up catcher?) 14. EValdez (mid) (2B/DH?) 23. Seabold 25. Downs 27. German (mid) 31. Kelly 2024 1. Mayer (late) 4. Yorke (mid) 6. Rafaela (I'd say maybe late '23) 26. W Abreu 29. Drohan 32. Binelas 35. R Hernandez 36. Koss 2025 10. Paulino 15. Wikelman 16. Jordan 20. Hickey 22. Kavadas 24. Bonaci 33. McDonough 37. Uberstine 2026 5. Bleis (might be our top prospect by next season) 9. Romero (looking real good, so far) 11. Anthony 19. Perales 21. Coffey 28. Rodriguez-Cruz 30. Brannon 34. Paez

I'd give Casas and another piece for Lopez in a heartbeat.

I won't be surprised, if we only add one SP, but it better be a very good one- like Lopez. To me, we are losing Nate, Wacha and Hill, so we should add 2 solid SP'ers. In think we should, but won't, count on Sale & Paxton as one solid SP'er at 33 GS'd. Pivetta should be counted as a 4/5 SP'er. They probably will add Whitlock to the rotation, and they might count on one prospect to take the 5 slot, so it might look like this: SP1 ______ SP2 Sale/Paxton SP3 Whitlock SP4 Pivetta SP5 (Sale/Paxton) Bello/Mata/TWard/Crawford/Wink/Seabold/Murphy/Walter I'd rather trade for an ace and QO Wacha for this... SP1 ___ACE via trade___ SP2 Sale/Paxton SP3 Wacha SP4 Pivetta SP5 (Paxton/Sale) of a prospect Whitlock in the pen.

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