moonslav59

I seriously doubt it, although both Nate and Wacha have had injury issues for much of their careers. It's more likely neither get a QO.

Tell that to harmony.

Suarez can play 1B, and Saurez is tied with Judge for the most homers since 2018.

..or, if he'd have comeback and looked shaky, like Nate did.

Part of "impressing" is looking at runs allowed, and on that front, it looks like Bello is failing, miserably, but some of those runs have come off hits on some nice pitches. I've been seeing some very encouraging signs, already. Maybe he was rushed a little, due to all the injuries, but I'm not so sure. He has had a learning experience, and I think it has helped.

I think Wong and RHern have been alternating C/DH in WOO, so calling Wong up actually let's RHern get more reps at catcher. How much Wong plays might depend on DFA'ing Plawecki or not.

Probably the thick one.

Like it or not, this is how I see the 2023 roster: Unless traded, these players will be back, next year: Barnes Sale Devers Taylor (assuming healthy) Verdugo Pivetta Arroyo Houck Mata Wong Whitlock RHernandez Crawford Winckowski Bello Paxton (option) Story Schreiber Refsnyder McGuire Pham (option) Hosmer Casas (Rule 5) German (Rule 5) Gonzalez (Rule 5) Murphy (Rule 5) Paulino (Rule 5) Rafaela (Rule 5) Walter (Rule 5) E Valdez (MiFA) That's only 30 out of 40 needed. Possible Returnees, Traded or DFA'd? (Red= may be back or traded) DHern Dalbec Seabold Downs Duran Cordero Danish Ort Ja Davis Borderline Rule 5 Protectees/Lost to Rule 5 (likely will not be selected.) WAbreu BBonaci KCottam DFeltman DGranberg DHamilton GJimenez CKoss NNorthcut VSantos NSogard NSong JThompson JWallace TWard

With one of those micro pens?

Wong hit another HR (14th) and Enmauel Valdez is 1-4 w 2 RBI. Mata walked 4 in 3 IP (2 H, 1 ER). Wong has 7 HRs in his last 14 games, Wilyer Abreu is 3-4 w BB, so far w POR. Koss 2-5 with 14 dinger. Kavadas 1-4 w BB. Binelas 1-3 w 2B. Hamilton 1-3 w 2BB.

Cut Brasier and Plawecki. Add German, Casas and Murphy to the 40. Call up Wong & Casas, tonight. Add Murphy and Casas for September call-ups.

A more realistic trade would be to a big spending team. Would you trade Devers, Wong and Wink to SEA for France & Raleigh? (BTV accepted)

There are a lot of other players I'm interested in, but I'm not sure the budget will be big enough to sign them all. Eventually, it will come down to some either/or choices, and I think 1B and or DH might be the slots left untouched.

Remember when many of us were considering a QO for Eovaldi?

Indeed. That's why I said it's not like he's in DHern territory.

As a Sox fan, I hope you are right.

The Pistons?

A quarter of the board was crying about us not getting him, all year.

They could trade for higher-priced players or arb players some cheap teams might look to trade. I'd like to see us get Swanson at SS, but KWong at 2B would be nice, if Story moves to SS. (Neither should cost more than Story did.) Kike & Nimmo would be great for the OF, and neither will be mega deals. Re-sign Wacha or maybe offer him a QO. Maybe a couple RP'ers. I'd like to see Diaz or Jansen, but that's not likely. Fulmer would be nice, if we can keep Houck & Whitlock in the pen. We might add Abreu at 1B/DH on a short deal. I doubt we seriously go after Judge, Contreras, Turner, Correa or deGrom, but we could.

I'm not sure they want a total and complete overhaul, but if they did, you are right. If they know they will never reach Devers' demands, they should trade him, and this is from "Mr. Devers Forevers." I think the plan will be to spend big, this winter, but it will be year 2 on the tax ledger, so I'm not expecting a bunch of long term deals that ensure we go over in 2024, too. I think we go large and long on 1-2 deals, or 1 with a mega deal for a top SP- maybe with the Marlins. The prospect cost will be great, but I think we can afford one big prospect trade after something like 8 of the last 10 trades involving prospects coming our way. I could also see us going pretty big on 3-5 deals and making one big splash trade. May be something like... Rafaela, Yorke, Wikelman & Duran to MIA for Lopez & Stallings Sign: Nimmo, Kike, K Wong, Wacha, Fulmer C: Stallings/McGuire (Wong/RHern) 1B: Hosmer/Casas (Dalbec/Kavadas/Jordan) 2B: K Wong, Arroyo (EValdez/Downs/Hamilton) SS: Story (Lugo/Mayer/Bonaci) 3B: Devers (Koss/Binelas/Paulino) LF: Verdugo, Pham (Granberg/McDonough CF: Kike (Ja.Davis/Bleis) RF: Nimmo, Refsnyder (WAbreu/Jimenez DH: Casas/Verdugo-Pham/Dalbec/Cordero/EValdez SP: Lopez, Sale, Paxton, Wacha, Pivetta (Bello, Mata, Ward, Wink, Seabold, Murphy, Santos) RP: Houck, Whitlock, Schreiber, Taylor, Barnes, Crawford, German, Brasier/Danish (Winckowski/Seabold/Murphy/Kelly/Ort/Thompson/Politi)

I wouldn't call it a longshot- not that you did. He's got good stuff, and although he walks too many batters, it's not like DHern territory. Plus, he just turned 23.

What's early? They should b e bounced, if they fail to make the WS. I know the Astros are tough, but it's gone on, too long, already.

There are also a lot of examples where pitchers had bad to very bad starts and then became great, sometimes shortly afterwards- sometimes a few years later. I'm impatient, too. It's been too long since our last prospect pitcher made good with us. (Houck?)

For real, though, if Bogey opts out, our veteran, pre-arb budget will be around $60M at the start of winter. I'm thinking that may be the lowest in a long time. (These one year deals are a major factor.)

Bello had some pretty incredible numbers in AA/AAA, this year, despite the 36 BBs in 96 IP (3.4 BB/9.) 129 Ks (12.1/9) .559 OPS Against 2.52 G/F was by far, the best starter in the system (Walter was 2nd at 2.23) He may end up not impressing, but he's the best looking pitching prospect we've had in a long time. (Mata might be second best.)