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Yes, he's still under team control until after the 2025 season. My guess is, 2024 is his last season, but this guy is a tough cookie, which is not something usually said about a guy who has been on the IL so much and so often, recently.

I think jacko has been pretty rough on Sale's chances at returning to somewhere near what he was. I'm still trying to temper my excitement over last night's outing. He may still have some blips, along the way, but as I have said before, I don't know any baseball player that seems to be as fierce a competitor as... Chris Freakin' Sale!

I only had issues with how Vax handled the staff and said over and over I would was never in favor of benching him. I also said he had been a net plus. I like the two trade that essentially gave us McGuire and sent Vaz packing, because Vaz was a rental during what I felt was an already "lost season." I was also for trading anybody and everybody that was not tied down, and I certainly did not hate JD, Bogey, Wacha, Hill and Strahm. I got called out for wrongly claiming Red "hated" Kike, and I still have my doubts, but he never said it, and I've apologized. No way I would have paid what Vaz ended up getting from the Twins, but I wish him luck vs the Yanks, Jays, Rays...

It basically is a club option. If Sale earns the guarantee, we'll want him back at $20M/1. Cots... 25:$20M club option 2025 option guaranteed if Sale finishes in top 10 in 2024 Cy Young vote and is not on the injured list at end of 2024 season

Did you just say this outloud? (Advice: don't ever say "empty.")

Busting a gut, too early in the morning!

Has there ever been so many catcher interferences to start a season? Any ideas on why there have been so many?

Untrue.

Just keep PH'ing McGuire! Maybe calling up Alfaro, so we can PH, more often, makes some sense. He could DH with Turner at 1B, when matchups don't favor Casas.

Nobody wants any pitcher starting who can't get his stuff together. Maybe Bello won't, this year or ever, but the potential we saw, last year, did not go away. Remember, the very season you saw potential in, he had a 10.50 ERA after his first 3 starts and 12 IP. This year, he has one start. Give the kid some time. He's got good stuff and some control issues. He had a 3.18 ERA in his last 10 games of 2022.

You are a fortune teller!

WOO won 6-2. Mata was doing well, but gave up 2 in the 5th. 5 IP, 4H, 2ER, 4BB, 6K Hamilton 2-4 w 2B & SB Abreu 1-4 w HR & BB Alfaro 1-5 w 3 rbi POR lost 3-1 Sharp 6IP, 2H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K Yorke 1-3 w HR & BB Lugo 2-4 w 2B GRE won 7-6 in 10 Mayer 3-5 w 2B & SB Meidroth 2-5 Ferguson 1-3, 2BB & 2SB SAL lost 15-12 Bleis 3-5 w 2B Anthony 1-4 w 2BB Liendo 4-5

True, but Feltman was a pitcher.

Ort will go first, so he'll be at 100 lives. Martin & Joely kindly went on the IL, so he could stick around longer.

Paxton should be called up, soon, and I can't see Crawford being sent down, so I'm thinking maybe Ort gets demoted. When Martin or Joely return, maybe Brasier gets DFA'd or traded (as if!) Of course, someone else will likely be sent to the IL before any of this happens.

Feltman was released. He's was hyped up pretty well, for a while. He peaked at #9 on the soxprospects.com list back in 2018. Drohan and Hamilton won back-to-back player of the week awards.

So, they got lucky with Whitlock? Closed their eyes and drew his name from a hat.

So, if he pitches 4 IP and lets up 4 ERs, which is a better ERA/CERA than he has now, then what?

If Sale does well, we'll never hear the end of it...

Oh, I listen!

People point to the days of Lester, Buch and masterson, like we used to be really great at finding and developing great pitchers. We never were. The only really great pitcher we ever did that wth was Clemens, and we drafted him in 1983! Okay-okay, having another Lester or two, right now wouldn't help, but we have won 4 rings with a system that excels at finding and developing enough everyday players and promising pitching prospects to build a team and have enough left-over for trading for guys like Pedro, Schilling, Beckett and Sale. So we overhaul the whole system and end up with what? Of course, the answer is easy, but making it happen is not. We might want to be careful what we wish for. I will add that the current system recognized Whitlock, and guys like Houck, Bello and Mata might be the best looking top 3 pitching prospects we've had in a long time. Maybe we should give the new regime time to change over a system that has been structured a certain way for decades.

Bleacher Report: ESPN's Kiley McDaniel spoke to "10 sources" who all "thought the Red Sox overpaid by a hefty margin." One executive went as far as to say, "We thought he was worth less than half of what they paid." Masslive had a longer quote... “I sent texts around to a number of scouts and execs explaining what I thought his tools were (high contact, very good approach, average-ish power, limited defensive ability) and asking what I was missing between that scouting report and what the Red Sox paid,” McDaniel wrote. “‘Nothing,’” replied one international scouting director. “‘Overpay for me ... too rich imo,’” from another scouting director. A third exec: “‘I have no idea.’” A fourth: “‘Nothing ... I wish they and him luck.’” A fifth: “‘We thought he was worth less than half of what they paid.’” A sixth added, “‘I have no words.’” “In total, I spoke to ten sources in the aftermath of the signing and they all had a similar breakdown. They all had some level of appreciation for the player, but thought the Red Sox overpaid by a hefty margin.” Some of the "10" seemed to give no opinion, and he seemed to take it as agreeing it was a major overpay.

The purchase price for the A's in 2005 was just $180M. The Rays cost $200M in 2004. The Pirates, Rockies and Royals in the mid $90M in the 90's. The Twins $44M in 1984. CWS $20M in 1981.

Yes. I read the stories. I think they quoted "industry people," and again, I ask who are they? Again, I'm not arguing we didn't overpay for him. Many felt we bid against ourselves for Dice-K, way back when, and it looks like we did, in hindsight. I'm cutting Yoshida some slack. I think he is experienced and good enough to know how to adjust and improve.

It sure doesn't help Yorke's development to have him DH, but maybe we can DH EValdez at AAA (or call him up) and slot Yorke in AAA. That will not happen, soon.