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I would not be at all surprised, if we had no rings had JH not been our owner. I guess one can call this praise, but to me, it’s just describing reality. The previous owners seemed content on just coming close and giving fans the perception that we were “close.” JH hired the right guys and spent what was needed to get us over the top, as well as rearing a few times. I’m happy he was and still is the owner. One can poo poo the 4 rings in 20 years all they want. I’m not so sure about the idea of rolling the dice on hopes a replacement ownership will come close to that.
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Yes. I view that trade as a good one.
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True, but 2 top 15 prospects for 2 months of Vaz…
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Doing what we did last summer didn’t help the image, either. Getting next to nothing firBogey, Nate, Wacha, JD and Hill was the bigger failure. Look what we got for Vaz. We might be surprised at what we could get by paying down all these deals as we trade them. Note: I’m not supporting the fire Sale idea, right now, but I’m being pulled in that direction with every loss.
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There are a lot of teams in the race, and several will not want add salary or might, if it’s not too much. Expanding the teams involved in the bidding should help on any returns.
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Henry has shown he spends in cycles. This is becoming a long down cycle, but I still think he will spend big, again.
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Agreed, but it's a fine line to walk, and keeping the fans is often about keeping the perception alive and well. He needs to be careful not to lose too many fans, There is no guarantee they will come back, once lost.
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I totally agree, and just because many owners start cutting the budget or long term commitments before a sale, doesn't mean that is what Henry is doing. Besides, he just locked up Devers forevers.
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If we pay most or all of Jansen and Martin's deals, they would both be worth more than Pivetta.
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I think Valentine should count. They thought he was for real, when they signed him.
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Eventually, yes, but we should not expect the next ownership group will do better than 4 rings in 20 years.
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If we end up selling, which it looks more and more like that's the way we are headed, then we do have a few pieces other teams would want, and we could expand the amount of teams making offers by offering to pay much or even all of their remaining salaries to sweeten the return. We could also choose this time to trade off longer term assets we no longer think will be productive into the time frame of the rebuild. Who those players might be is unclear, but I have to think Dalbec might be one. (Maybe we "sell high" on Dalbec, Wink and or Crawford.) The sell list would include: Paxton Jansen Martin Turner Duvall Kike Kluber Maybe Story, Verdugo or Pivetta None of these guys, even when packaged will bring us anything amazing, but we could get lucky with a prospect or two. It's hard to imagine us buying and getting what we need by trading Dalbec and Duvall.
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My guess is that even if JH sells the team, the next owner will be worse.
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Indeed, so if just about every pitcher does better in the pen, let's just move them all there! LOL!
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That has gone up and down, some, but not by much, when 5 over .500 or at .500. BTW, fangraphs has 16%. It's not easy when the other 4 division teams are over 58%.
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June 27, Miami at Boston
moonslav59 replied to Maxbialystock's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
They pretty much have to, IMO. I think people look at the failures or Kluber, Richards and Perez and think Bloom cannot recognize an ace when he sees one, but those guys were $7-10M signings and were not expected to be aces. Aces are hard to find. The success rate of FA ace signings is below 50%. -
2.25 SP 2.45 RP Papelbon (Ooops, only 3 GS) The thing is, RP'ers sometimes come in with 1-2 outs, which greatly improves on their chances not to have a run charged to them. They start with that advantage.
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We are one game from the halfway point of the season with a near equal chance at being 41-40 or 40-41. We all had hopes we'd be better, after a few teases, earlier in the season, but with every tease has come an offsetting letdown, and here we are. My hopes and optimism are waning but not extinguished. I'm not sure why I have more hope than I had last year, especially with our IL list growing, daily, but as of now, I still do.
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Then, back to... 85-77 in '96 78-84 in ''97 Two good years in '98 and '99 then... 85-77 in '00 82-79 in '01 I think it comes down to 2021 getting fans' hopes up too high. We shoulda known the rebuild was going to take longer and be painful and may not be linear.
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The crowd gets bigger on the down streaks, too.
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A month ago, he was a great signing. The board has gone extreme fickle.
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It will be the late 20's soon enough. Is the farm better? Is the 40 man roster depth better? Does the budget have a brighter or dimmer outlook than 3-5 years ago? (Less deadwood and sunken costs) These are the first 3 questions that probably all need to be answered yes to think we should improve, assuming JH doesn't stay under the tax line, every year. I'd answer: 1. It appears to be better. 2. Certainly yes. 3. A certain yes.
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Normal ebbs and flows to a season.
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The "experiment" should be ended. Probably with Houck, too. 3.99 as SP (.643 OPSA) 5.05 this year (.695) 2.68 as RP (.570 OPSA) .514 1st time through (.474 first 25 pitches) .715 second time (.650 26-50) .944 third time (.833 51-75) This year: .504>.812>.901 1-25: .534 26-50: .596 51-75: .931 The problem is, who starts, instead?
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June 27, Miami at Boston
moonslav59 replied to Maxbialystock's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
The Devers extension kicks in, next season, but if that is the only expense that puts us over the tax line, then we can probably expect just slow progress. I had hopes that once a deeper foundation and farm were established, we'd "splurge," but I'm not so sure when that will be, anymore. Had we spent Kluber ($10M) + Duvall ($7M) on a better pitcher, would the narrative been much different? Had we signed Eflin to whatever it took and not Kluber, would it have made a huge difference? If your answer is yes, then maybe Bloom is more to blame. If no, then it's mostly about JH not spending what you would like him to spend. I will only add that replacing JH may not be the solution to more spending and or better management. 4 rings in 2 decades will be very hard to duplicate with any new management/ownership group.
