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5/17 Mariners @ Sox
moonslav59 replied to Maxbialystock's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
1. Dugo RF 2. Turner 1B 3. Refsnyder LF 4. Devers 3B 5. Yoshida DH 6. Kike SS 7. Reyes 2B 8. Duran CF 9. Wong C I might have gone with Kike at 2B and Reyes at SS. -
It was his remaining contract, age and injury concerns that made him untouchable to almost every team, unless we paid a large chunk of his salary. "All but $10M" is over $20M a year! Most teams might have demanded $23-25M per. I remember 700 saying $15M was a wash.
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AL East Winning % Standings in MLB: 1. TBR 2. BAL T6. TOR 8. NYY 12. BOS Good thing, for us, MLB cut down on division games.
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How could I have forgotten the freakin' one.
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I'll always be curious what we might have gotten for just Betts. We might have been a ble to trade 3/4 Price for a bag of used balls.
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We might still have won without Price (FA), but I'm not so sure about no Sale (Trade), Lackey (FA), Beckett (Trade) or Schill & Pedro (Trade & Trade.)
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Yup. We are 12th in MLB winning % and 15th in run diff at +7.
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Lots of talk down here in HOU that it's related to the pitch clock.
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Some top ranked pitchers: 145 Alcantara 114 L Webb 68 Z Gallen 62 S Bieber 62 D Cease 58 C Burnes 48 B Singer 42 M Keller 33 J urias
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And, the 10-1 Workman.
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Good point, but maybe 2021, too.
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My guess is Bloom would have to be blown away by an offer for Mayer and Bleis and maybe now, Drohan. I could see him trading Casas, Rafaela and other SSs in the system, including Romero. Like I said, he may need a nudge on even moderate trades of prospects.
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I haven't visited the BTV site for a while, and here are the values they place on our players: 65 Mayer 40 Whitlock 34 Bello 30 Bleis 29 Casas 25 Rafaela 22 Yoshida 21 Houck 21 Duran 18 Dugo 11 Schreiber 10 Yorke 9.4 Crawford 8.7 Romero 8.1 McGuire 7.8 Walter 6.5 Anthony 5.1 Bonaci 5.0 Jordan 5.0 Paulino 4.0 Hickey 3.8 Mata 3.6 Valdez 3.0 Lugo 2.9 Paxton 2.7 McDonogh 2.6 Murphy 2.6 Winckowski 2.6 Wong 2.4 Abreu 2.2 Jimenez 2.1 Coffey 2.0 Mondesi 1.9 Perales & Kelly 1.7-1.8 Rosier, Hamilton, Kavadas, Pivetts, E R-C 1.4-1.6 Brannon, Chacon, Broadway, Drohan, Gonzalez, Lira, Lopez 1.3 Arroyo, Dearden, Decker, Encarnacion, Gonzalez (OF), Marcano, Martin 1.1-1.2 Binelas, Ferguson, Liu, bastardo, Dalbec, Encarnación (RHP) 1.0 Koss, Ravelo, Refsnyder, Medrioth, Rogers Underwater: -35 Story -27 Devers -15 Sale -2 Kike -2 Jansen -1 Tapia & Turner
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The interesting thing about the long stretches of not trading top prospects involved 2 GMs who never traded one (Ben and Bloom.) Will it take a GM change to get Bloom to pull the trigger, or is it just a cycle thing, and Ben never made it to the point where he was going to make a big deal? At the time of Ben's departure, I was sure he was going to make some trades- not like DD, but something big. I'm not so sure about Bloom. He may need to be nudged into making one. To date, his highest ranked prospects traded have been Aldo Ramirez for Schwarber and maybe Groome for Hosmer, Ferguson & Rosier. In 3 plus years, that is pretty telling.
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I think it was more the idea that the D needed improvement, which seemed to evaporate, this past winter. You mentioned Renfroe in LF, and when we got him, I thought we'd have Dugo in RF and renfroe in LF. I wonder why that did not happen. The whole avoidance of Dugo in RF seems like a blunder.
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Some seemed to question the offense, especially coming off a 9th place finish in 2022 in runs and OPS. We all questioned the D and thought the pen should be better. We knew the rotation was questionable, but 5.84? WOW!
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Ask those who saw us winning 70-76 games. I'm surprised, no shocked, the rotation has been this bad. Every starter with more than 1 GS'd has an ERA over 5.00. I can see thinking Pivetta and maybe Kluber might, but they are over both over 6.30might. ERA as SP 8.00 Crawford 2GS 6.41 Kluber 8 6.30 Pivetta 8 6.19 Whitlock 3 (maybe understandable after injury) 5.48 Houck 8 (maybe understandable after injury) 5.40 Sale 8 (maybe understandable after long layoff) 5.01 Bello (still just a kid.) In isolation, nothing is that shocking, but everyone? Yes. Team Starter ERA: 5.84 with a 119 OPS+ Against.
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5 teams in 5 years must be putrid.
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Let's see in September. Turner rocks in the second half. I'm not sure JD will dip like he did, last year, but I'm betting Turner ends up better than the 2022 JD and probably the 2023 JD, and at less money.
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I guess my point was that it should have been expected.
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One scary thing about big FA pitcher signings is that too many times, these guys don't even deliver year 1 and 2. I get the trade-off on less in later years, but when you factor in the risk of immediate failure, I tend to shy away from liking these signings. Note: I did see Price (and Scherzer the year before) as the type of ace worth the risk. They were not too old, and they both had long histories of success and durability.
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I don't blame him. Look at most of the big pitcher signings, last winter. I keep saying a trade is the way to go, despite my desire to let the farm bring us to a winning trend. Some posters nearly took my head off for just suggesting we trade Casas for a young SP'er. With the hole we have at SS, I'd hate to trade Mayer, but how else do we get the next Luis Castillo? Rafaela, Mata, Romero & Walter will not do.
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Fair enough, but I was looking at the changes made from only 2022 to 2023. BTW, why does Renfroe keep changing teams, so quickly?
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JD was also at .693 his last 100 games of 2022. A change was the right idea. The Bogey idea was a big gamble, but Yoshida and others do seem to have picked up the slack, and then some, and we haven't even seen Casas, Kike and a few others hit like we thought they might.
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Replacing a .790 DH should not have been viewed as catastrophic. Needing to replace Bogey's offense was a major issue. It was obvious, Bloom did not look to equal his numbers at SS, but rather to project upgrades at other positions (LF, CF, 1B and even DH) to make up for his loss. It seemed like many the losses on offense of JD and Bogey were based on memories of 2018, 2019 and 2021 for JD, which is fine, but I was looking at improving on the 2022 offense, which was not bad (9th in runs and OPS). Yoshida, Turner, Duvall and projected improvements at 1B and possibly 2B (healthy Story/Arroyo/Kike) seemed to more than make up for the loss.
