moonslav59
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Let’s see if we spend that $10M before counting it as a big part of the trade. When we traded Betts and Price, we never replaced their contract cost savings. When Porcello left-same. Last season we were $6M under, so didn’t spend all the Bogey bolting money, either. If we get a 1-2 pitcher with that money plus more, the trade looks fine. If we end up almost $10M under and left a hole unfilled or a position not upgraded, then the “savings” mean nothing, except to JH’s already fat wallet.
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I’d still rather have Sale in my 5 than Crawford or Pivetta, so I’d prefer getting a 1-2 AND keep Sale. If they money saved in the trade is the difference maker in getting a 1-2, fine, otherwise no.
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He did start more games than Paxton and was 3 away from being second to Bello, this year.
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fangraphs had Grissom ranked 3rd in the ATL system in 2022. 1. Harris 50 2. Strider 45+ 3. Grissom 45 I .
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It’s really about what they do with the $10M saved. If we end up under the tax line by $10M or more, we gained nothing
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Great post. Sure, Sale could get hurt. Sure Giolito might pitch like he has before. Too many ifs. We are basically paying $36M for Giolito and a 2Bman over Sale & Reyes/EValdez. I guess one could think Sale was useless, so we saved $10M and in a sense are paying $9M for Giolito and Grisham, which looks pretty good. These two deals look puzzling, unless we spend big on a SPer.
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Watch Sale start 30 games in ‘24! But seriously, if we spend the $10M on someone else, it could be fine, but will we see about that. Spending up to or over the tax line would likely make this trade better, assuming Brez spends wisely. Lots of ifs in this deal. I’m not sure who said it, but this does look like positioning for something big.
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Who has said wait for Yorke? I don’t like the deal either. I’d have liked signing Sale for $10M/1. I get the injury issues and the Grisham promise but adding Giolito and then paying Sale $17M to play in ATL does not look good, too me. Yes, Giolito takes the ball every 5 days, and that has real value, but I don’t see these two moves as an improvement.
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No way I’d give that for 1 year of Burnes. Sub Pivetta for Anthony and yes.
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That was kind of my point. All w know for sure is that Bogey did not agree to any number we offered or floated or hinted at. We don’t know what those numbers were or what Bogey would have said yes to. For all we know he might have said no to $200M/8, unless offered 3+ years ago. Maybe $220/9 was his number. Unless or until we know for sure, I’m not sure we can call it a mistake. Maybe, if we knew the number we’d have been glad we let him go, assuming we’d spend that Money elsewhere. (Yeah right.)
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He was kidding.
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Okay. I would have flipped them.
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Hard to know, if that game matters at all for 2024.
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Are we going to revisit the wide array viewpoints on who is an ace or #1?
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I’d prefer Sale at $3M.
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We don’t know what Bogey would have signed for. Probably all of us would haves loved getting him at 160/6. Most, including me, would have been fine with200/8, but I won’t speak for everyone. Would he have taken that? If he wanted 240/8, did we really make a major mistake?
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But, but, but what about Paxton. Maybe we sign Stroman or Imanaga.
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Are you sure Teoscar is better than O’Neill in RF on D?
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lol! So we basically swapped Sale for Giolito and Grissham, this week.
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Shocking. Now, I wonder why we aren’t spending on top pitching even more than I have, this whole winter.
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I’m not optimistic, but some hope still remains. Once Snell and Monty are gone, Imanaga or Stroman would not be enough, IMO, so the top pitcher would have to be by trade. That is a possibility, so hope is not gone. I’m just looking at a5 year trend and thinking I need to see the change to believe it. I still have hope but no optimism or expectations for us adding 2-3 excellent players.
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I agree. To me, we have 2 or maybe 3 major slots needing improvement, and #1 is a solid 1-2 SP. 2 is 2B 3 might be CF/RF or C We have $37M to stay under the tax line and should be able to go$19M above that. We have trade capital to use, as well. Absolutely no reason for not filling all 3 slots with very good to excellent players.
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I see him as a solid 2 with a chance to become a #1. He might be close to the best SPer with 3 or more years of control that is a realistic trade candidate. Would you trade Duran and Mayer for Luzardi and Berti, then sigh Teoscar to play LF?
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I do t know a single poster who did not want Bogey back. I’m not concerned about JHs wallet, but if you think he’d pay Bogey what SDP gave him and then sign more players to build up around Bogey, dream on.
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We still need a solid 1-2, or this season does not look promising, at all.
