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Agree - Imagine that (once again)
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I don't even know this guy what gets me is all the spout about how bad he is based on steroid use and steroid suspensions. We have had any number of players who have been alleged to have used performance enhances. Does it make things better that not much has been proven? All just rumors right. If any player uses and pays the price for it and attempts to come back, I won't be the one to criticize. It is about those glass houses some of us live in.
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So is it all significant that Kimbrel is currently spending time working out in Boston? I'm not going to give up hope just yet.
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Things are a little boring right now so maybe it is time for me to revisit why i think the Sox really got rid of Hanley Ramirez!!! Everybody knows that the only reason i didn't like him was because of the way he wore his hair. What do you think, is now the right time? Could get us right into spring training. For sure it would bring slasher out of hiding. he does spice things up a bit.
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I wasn't surprised at all notin by your agreeing with me. Your thoughts being somewhat crazy from time to time doesn't surprise me at all! lol
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you know i do you old pot stirrer you -
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That is what you are somehow reading into my comments? Really Bell - What ever floats your boat I guess. You must not remember that I'm the guy who takes the crap here for being the most ardent supporter of all things DD. It kind of turns into a nasty road that we go down from time to time doesn't it.
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likely better than naming her Shittheed (which someone actually did) but not by much.
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It is going to be a tough decision that there will be plenty df disagreement over but i think that eventually one of the three goes. We seem to have a stock pile of backup players that we feel good about but that no one else wants.
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I would like a decent answer to that question as well Larry. If any of these guys provide such competence as suggested by their ardent supporters, why are they not being chased by other teams looking for a catcher - even a backup catcher? The answer I think is obvious.
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I'm not sure of how much faith I have in Swihart but I would like to find out. what I do have faith in is that we might all be surprised by what he could do if given the opportunity. Would he provide as good a backstop as either V or L, likely not but if we could get a decent return in trade for either of those guys I probably would pull the trigger. The rub is - could we get anyone of value by trading either Vazquez or Leon? I don't think that we could. Now - Everybody loves a competent catcher that we know so what's up with that one? What is your response Moon to why no teams are clamoring at the door willing to trade for one of these two guys if they in fact are as good as suggested?
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Moon you are ok. The job of catching is the most difficult job on the field. It is one of the most demanding positions frankly in all of sports. Hitting is clearly secondary to all of the other things that good catchers do. I never caught but I coached a whole bunch of good ones and they are a coach on the field. If they are good - really good- I could care less whether they could hit or not. We have two competent catchers who have done a great job. The debate here isn't what our catchers have done it really is just about whether what they have done has been that much better than what others might be able to do. Keeping them both really isn't an issue . I'm just not sure that losing one of them would be that big a deal either.
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Moon - I think that it is just you. Anyone who apologizes when someone makes the condescending accusation like you often do, is not condescending. I don't always agree with you for sure but I don't see condescend when I think of you. With respect to our catchers - no I do not think that they are as valuable as you might think but I think that that is ok. they don't present much of an issue though. If we keep them fine and if we don't keep them all, I'm pretty sure that the effects felt will be minimal. what we can agree with I hope is that anyone with a baseball brain realizes how difficult the position is and although it would be nice to have a catcher that could hit just a little it isn't essential. When people constantly drone on about how much they value catching defense as opposed to offense - now that I do think is condescending. The assumption seems that they know something that the rest of us don't and that is just wrong. We all get it and we all feel the same way.
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Moon - Do you really think that anyone who knows the game does not understand the importance of pitcher catcher relationships? this is usually the spot where someone jumps in and acts like they and they alone value the catching position more than anyone else - laughable. We all know how important it is. It is just that some of us, even though we understand that we have two competent catchers, do not think that they are particularly special at what they do. they are good catchers - nice.
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yes - It absolutely does Moon - work with me here!
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!!!!!! - Good
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I'll clarify my comment. Most teams I guess could see it as a luxury to have a couple of above average receivers on their club. Once again looking at the total catching package on this team which really doesn't have much in the way of weakness, I don't see either Vazquez or Leon as something special. It's nice to have them both but if we needed any offense from that position niether amounts to very much. Most teams seem to require some offense from the catching position. We are lucky that we don't seem to have that need. If they stay great and if one or the other is traded, ho hum.
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There is simply put not one single blueprint that leads to success. It is extremely narrow minded to think that there is. We have a great organization in Boston. I'll support any direction they happen to go in. I'm not quite ready to change the word on my fan card from Boston to Tampa just yet.
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I'm still hanging on to hope that he is back with us (I realize that that might seem silly). I like him and the way he approaches the game but mostly I just want to hear him shout from the mound at Fenway the following words: "I'm still here"!!!
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Hey no matter what people think, when you look at catching from a total package perspective, this is a weak spot of this team's roster. Does that mean that we can't win by using V and L in that position - of course not we did. Do we need to upgrade the position?- probably not. Does it mean that the defense, pitch calling, arm strength and framing is better than everybody else who plays the position? I would not be too terribly upset if either one of these guys was traded for an upgrade but I think to get anything of value back for either, someone would have to be awfully desperate for a catcher.
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I know that you are looking forward to these kids getting the opportunities they deserve just like I am.
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Great to hear this from someone who might know what they are talking about!
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Sounds just a dite sarcastic here. i'm sorry that you posted this. I am really looking forward to watching some of young players advance and prove the doubters wrong. It is beginning to sound as though we have some here who actually want to be right so very badly that they might not even want these kids to succeed. Hope that we are all on the same page here.
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Proponents of the cliff I'm afraid are likening those who don't believe in such things to people who might deny that the earth is round. Honestly I hope that when there isn't some massive free fall for this franchise that these folks will be happy and not to terribly upset that they are wrong.