Hey no matter what people think, when you look at catching from a total package perspective, this is a weak spot of this team's roster. Does that mean that we can't win by using V and L in that position - of course not we did. Do we need to upgrade the position?- probably not. Does it mean that the defense, pitch calling, arm strength and framing is better than everybody else who plays the position? I would not be too terribly upset if either one of these guys was traded for an upgrade but I think to get anything of value back for either, someone would have to be awfully desperate for a catcher.