Bellhorn04
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There are a lot of unexplainable things in baseball. One is how much a pitcher's performance can change going from one league or environment to another. Look at how bad A. J. Burnett's numbers were when he was with the Yankees, and how good they are in the National League. Then there's a guy like Javier Vazquez, who had great numbers with more than one NL team and terrible numbers with more than one AL team.
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I agree. You can't blame men for being obsessed with the beauty of the female form, though.
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This is true.
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Trade Nap and Vic even if they have to pay 90% of what's left of their salaries. Get ready to play a lot of kids, including Castillo, the rest of the way. Don't trade Koji.
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But when they cut Lackey and Lester loose they knew it was going to leave a big hole at the top of the starting rotation, and they should have seen it all coming from the beginning of the 2014 season. They had a large amount of time to plan for all this. It was very premeditated, or it should have been.
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I thought one of our areas of strength was money.
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Hypothetically, the Red Sox had at least 5 options by which they could have retained or acquired a #1 or #1/2 starter. 1) Not trade Lackey. 2) Sign Lester. 3) Sign Scherzer. 4) Sign Shields. 5) Trade for Hamels.
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But Ortiz is almost 40, and on borrowed time one would think. And guys like Napoli have been known to fall off the cliff at around this point in their careers. The projections seem to be based on optimism, without much consideration for 's**t happens'.
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Men are simple creatures.
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Then we need a new set-up man. Trading Koji might get us a nice prospect. But trading any good pitcher also adds to our to-do list for 2016.
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Lynn, Rice, Dewey, Fisk - that was a once-in-a-millennium crop, or once-in-forever. And of course none of them were pitchers. For our #1 pitchers in the 70's we had to trade for Tiant and Eck. There's almost always been a problem producing pitching.
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To me the projections that we would have the top offense in the AL, or one of the top offenses, may have been faulty. In 2014 we scored 3.91 runs a game, tied for 3rd worst in the league, and we had an OPS+ of 92, 2nd worst in the league. It baffles me a little how we were going to go from that to the top of the league with the additions we made. But I haven't looked at the projections.
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Then we need a closer for next year.
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Anyway, it seems kind of odd for us to be trying to pin all the blame on one or the other when they are both well below expectations.
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Didn't you expect this team to score more than 4.2 runs a game?
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If: The offense was expected to be top of the pack and instead it's middle of the pack. The pitching was expected to be middle of the pack and instead it's bottom of the pack. Are they not roughly equally responsible?
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I think everyone is aware that underperformance by both our offense and our pitching are responsible for our record. They're about equally responsibly, perhaps. This is about heat being directed at Ben and the FO. The difference is that Ben and the FO made a major effort to upgrade the offense. Nobody is criticizing them about that. The criticism is that they could have done more to upgrade the pitching and they made a clear decision not to.
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I can't believe you're even serious with this comment.
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Betts/Bogaerts/Vazquez?
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He's got a lot of financial incentive to get back this time.
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No, I don't think Ben is stupid. In this case I think he adopted a strategy with the pitching that was too risky for a team that has as much money as this team does. He really rolled the dice and went against the grain of what almost everyone expected, which was that the Sox would acquire a #1 starter in the offseason.
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Clay has been diagnosed with a flexor strain. Early indications are no damage to UCL. Doug Fister had a flexor strain this year and was out about a month.
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Did Ben or someone in the organization ever actually say this?
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The most innings Kelly has ever pitched is 124. Last year he only pitched 96.1. He pitched worse in 2014 than he did in 2013. I'm not sure how anyone could even project a guy like Kelly for a full season.
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Ok, ok so who is the all-star from this group?
Bellhorn04 replied to sk7326's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Hey, phantom debates are a big part of how we roll here. In truth I couldn't care less about Bogaerts not making it.
