Bellhorn04
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It's a phase in the cycle and it's temporary and fixable. The Cubs have had a similar dip in their rankings over the last several years too, I think. I believe the Yankees have also had a significant recent dip with all the trades they've made.
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It wasn't me who started all the destroyed/decimated the farm s***. If others will stop with it I gladly will too.
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I believe that over the course of history, farmers have traded harvested crops for other goods.
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Post of the Day.
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I'm not sure why "traded" doesn't still work.
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I think it's a little weird to look at it that every time you trade a prospect for an MLB player you're doing something destructive. Especially when it's a good, fair trade.
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Yes, non FA's tend to be cheaper...
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Baseball America bumped us up to #22 in their year end rankings. That's not far from #20.
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Not sure I get your point. Let me ask this: when DD traded Moncada and Kopech for Sale, would you call that an act of destruction?
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notin, I have said over and over, I'm not disputing that part. All I have been saying is that the contract, taken on its own, was a favorable one.
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There are DEGREES of destruction. Can we all at least agree on that?
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Put it this way: If Papelbon could get 4 years @ 12.5 = 50 after 2012, what would Kimbrel have gotten on the open market after 2015? I think it's very reasonable to estimate he would have gotten at least 4 years @ 15 = 60. That's still 20 and 26 mill less than Jansen and Chapman got the following year.
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Vaporized?
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That was just the happenstance of the timing. Put it in context with the deals received by other established, elite closers. Not just Chapman, Jansen, and Davis which came after, but Papelbon's 4 year, 50 million deal which came after 2012.
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OK. It all depends on what principles you're using to assess things. By the same token: Pedroia's last extension was a good one for the team at the time. Yay Ben! But in hindsight it was a disaster. Ben sucks!
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FWIW the Rays did take the last 2 from the Yanks in September, although the Yanks were on cruise control at that point. I wouldn't count out the Rays if they do make it. They have an amazing knack of playing a lot better than they look. There is definitely some good game planning and coaching going on there.
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You highlighted the horror of it quite nicely there.
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Yes, that would be sweet.
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Managers dismissed (fired or retired) and candidates to replace them
Bellhorn04 replied to Carpin's topic in Other Baseball
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Not talking about after the fact value assessments based on actual performance. It has to be about market value at the time we traded for CK.
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You're right. I Magoo'd.
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No matter who wins tonight, I'm preparing myself for the worst.
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That may be so. Let's not forget what Theo gave up for Chapman either. Let's not also forget that our old friend Papelbon got 4 years and 50 mill after the 2012 season. There aren't that many consistently elite closers to begin with.
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And the freaky twists of fate in this game are also incredible.
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Managers dismissed (fired or retired) and candidates to replace them
Bellhorn04 replied to Carpin's topic in Other Baseball
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